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QuackingTroll
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Dec 17 2014, 12:56pm
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Did Bilbo Sabotage the Quest? (spoilers)
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After Bilbo is done with them - Erebor, Dale and Laketown are left Kingless and in ruins. Many characters (major and extras) are left dead or severely traumatised. There's no consensus on who gets the gold - Bard doesn't return the Arkenstone, Thranduil doesn't get his gems. And, once all this has been accomplished, Bilbo tries to sneak off quietly before everyone realises that he's single-handedly destroyed their lives.
It all starts when the dwarves turn up and start messing up Bag End. Bilbo is clearly enraged by the dwarves' behaviour shouting "Bebother and confusticate these dwarves!" (Which is hobbit-speak for "I will have my revenge!") He wakes up the next morning, looks at the contract and a plan forms in his mind.
Seconds after he joins the company, he's trying to slow them down "I've forgotten my handkerchief!" But quickly realises he's going to have to try much harder to stall them. Which is why he takes the drastic action of over-feeding the ponies and letting them loose.
When he hears about the trolls it's his golden opportunity - he quickly gets everyone tied up and about to be skinned alive when Gandalf pops up and saves the day. We see Bilbo's face here and he's clearly not happy with Gandalf's involvement. - Something will have to be done about that guy.
What we don't see is that it's Bilbo's idea to leave Rivendell without Gandalf - He needed to get Gandy out of the picture so that he could pull his next move - Dangling himself off of a huge mountain cleft and hoping Thorin will fall in the process of saving him; and then later getting everyone caught by goblins and attempting to sneak back without them. Unfortunately for Bilbo, Gandalf turns up again. This is when he starts to move to bigger and more elaborate plans.
He bides his time waiting until he gets to the dragon (not without an attempt to drown them all in barrels first) and then intentionally provokes the dragon and, using word play, sends it to Laketown ("No-one pulls me out of a toilet and gets away with it"). He also steals the Arkenstone, purely out of spite, and then hands it to Bard, just to stir things up (he also vouched for Thorin in Laketown, promising the poor people gold so that they would start this battle).
During the battle Bilbo makes a few attempts at slowing everyone down, but after being threatened by Thorin, Bilbo gets serious. He follows Thorin up to fight Azog and when he realises that all he needs to do is slip on the Ring and stab Azog in the back, he pretends to be asleep on the battlefield and allows Thorin to die. He then runs up to the dying Thorin and if you listen carefully you hear him whisper "That's for my mother's Westfarthing pottery. It was over a hundred years old".
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Angharad73
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Dec 17 2014, 2:04pm
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...wanted to wipe out the line of Durin. After pushing Fili into Azog's hands, he pointed Bolg into Kili's direction. The She-Elf almost got in the way, but in the end it still worked out.
Since Thorin killed Azog and Legolas dealt with Bolg, all the loose ends were tied up and no one could prove Bilbo's treachery.
It's no coincidence that the One Ring chose Bilbo...
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Timdalf
Rivendell
Dec 17 2014, 2:08pm
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Brilliant... Bilbo, the Agent of Evil!!
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea
Dec 17 2014, 2:25pm
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The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true
Survivor to the battle for the fifth trailer
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Bombadil
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Dec 17 2014, 5:13pm
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youzzzGuyzzz Forgot he STOLE it from..Uszz....
My ONE & ONLY posessssion...My Birthday
prezzzent.. (Gollum)
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"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"
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BlackFox
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Dec 17 2014, 6:02pm
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Thanks for the laugh, QuackingTroll!
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MatthewJer18
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Dec 17 2014, 6:28pm
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Don't forget Bilbo's suspicious invitation for tea at the end.
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Clearly he intends to serve the surviving dwarves a special tea if/when they stop by.
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Lissuin
Valinor
Dec 17 2014, 7:18pm
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And then he has the cheek - and cleverness -
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to write out his version of the story in a lovely leather-bound volume that gets passed down from generation to generation, cementing his place in history as the brave little hobbit that we all admire. Tricksey, false hobbitsesss, indeed! Gollum was dead right!
(Brilliant, QT. )
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Bladerunner
Gondor
Dec 17 2014, 10:36pm
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As well as the responses.
If Gandalf keeps questioning Bilbo about his ring, he may end up getting ambushed by a Balrog in a dark alley in Moria ;0).
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Riven Delve
Tol Eressea
Dec 17 2014, 10:58pm
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Bilbo's Baggins side was firmly opposed to all forms of sabotage from the very beginning. 
“Tollers,” Lewis said to Tolkien, “there is too little of what we really like in stories. I am afraid we shall have to try and write some ourselves.”
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Cirashala
Valinor
Dec 18 2014, 1:36am
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After a nasty bit of brand new computer screen getting busted by my five year old earlier  I needed the laugh.
Thanks! Utterly brilliant! It's all a huge hobbit conspiracy theory! 
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QuackingTroll
Valinor
Dec 18 2014, 12:20pm
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Reading all these replies just made my day, haha.
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Good to know there's a sense of humour still alive on the boards
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hahahahahahahaha
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