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bauglir
The Shire
Nov 26 2014, 2:11am
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Rulers of Arthedain--names starting with Ar-
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I'm sure many of you have noticed that after Malvegil, the name of every following heir of Isildur starts with Ar. Arveleg, Araphor, Arvegil.....Arador, Arathorn, Aragorn, etc. My first thought was that it might be a remnant of the names that the rulers of Númenor took when they started to take their names in Adûnaic, but none of the names of said descendants sound like they are of that tongue--they sound more like Elvish if nothing else.
I was wondering if anyone else had had any thoughts or theories on the matter...?
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acheron
Gondor
Nov 26 2014, 3:01pm
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ar- is "royal"/"noble"/"high [birth]"
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Arnor broke into three kingdoms: Arthedain, Rhudaur, Cardolan. The heirs of Isildur (or specifically Earendur, the last king of united Arnor) died out in Rhudaur and Cardolan. So the subsequent kings of Arthedain laid claim to all of Arnor, and took the "Ar-" prefix to emphasize the claim.
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(This post was edited by acheron on Nov 26 2014, 3:01pm)
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Elthir
Grey Havens
Nov 26 2014, 3:13pm
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Tolkien explains that: ’The names in the line of Arthedain are peculiar in several ways; and several, though S[indarin] in form, are not readily interpretable.’ Also noting: ’... ara- is prob[ably] derived from cases where aran ’king’ lost its n phonetically (as Arathorn), ara- then being used in other cases.’
From letter 347 to Richard Jeffrey, 17 Dec 1972. The fuller section reads:
5. Aragorn etc. This cannot contain a ‘tree’ word (see note).† ‘Tree-King’ would have no special fitness for him, and it was already used by an ancestor. The names in the line of Arthedain are peculiar in several ways; and several, though S. in form, are not readily interpretable. But it would need more historical records and linguistic records of S. than exist (sc. than I have found time or need to invent!) to explain them. The system by which all the names from Malvegil onwards are trisyllabic, and have only one ‘significant’ element‡ (ara being used where the final element was of one syllable; but ar in other cases) is peculiar to this line of names. The ara is prob. derived from cases where aran ‘king’ lost its n phonetically (as Arathorn), ara- then being used in other cases.
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Darkstone
Immortal
Nov 26 2014, 3:29pm
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Not all those who wander are lost.
(But that's the way to bet.)
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 26 2014, 3:40pm
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“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.
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Meneldor
Valinor
Nov 26 2014, 4:57pm
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They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 26 2014, 6:50pm
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They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters
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get an Arrr! --- And plundered. "Avast ye swabs!"
“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.
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noWizardme
Half-elven
Nov 27 2014, 8:42pm
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Then if course there's the vanished king, Ar-gon. He was the most noble of them all...//
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"nowimë I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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Hamfast Gamgee
Tol Eressea
Nov 27 2014, 11:17pm
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It goes right back to Numenor.
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The Kings of Numenor had the prefix Ar to indicate that they were the rulers of the West and the line of Isildur in the North picked it up. The strange thing is that it is thought that this claim by the Kings was an indication of the downfall of Numenor and those rulers whom had Ar in their prefix were not very friendly to the faithful, of whom those of the line of Isildur were descended from.
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Meneldor
Valinor
Nov 28 2014, 1:09am
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They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 28 2014, 2:30am
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And noWizardme sets a new personal best
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for a short posting.
But admittedly a good un! 
“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.
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