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delius82
Rivendell
Nov 25 2014, 10:11pm
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Film portrayal of Elves vs. Book portrayal of Elves.
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We all know that PJ didn't include the Woodland elves and their magical forest parties that suddenly evaporated when The Company of Thorin got too close. I've noticed in DOS that the elves especially the Silvan Wood elves don't have the feral/somewhat wild nature that they were given in the book. What do you all think about that decision on PJ's part? Its something that i've noticed throughout the filmed series as opposed to the books. You don't have the Elves singing those keening songs to Thorin, Gandalf, and company.
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Nov 25 2014, 10:31pm
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Tolkien portrayed his "Hobbit" elves much differently then his "Rings" elves. The "Hobbit" elves were almost more fairy-like; not as serious and noble as his later descriptions in LotR and the Silmarillion. I think Jackson has kept his elves pretty consistent, which is good. The Woodland elves are different in the movies, but not quite to the degree of the original story. All for the better IMO.
How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb? "Change? Oh my god, what do you mean change?! Never, never, never......"
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Elizabeth
Half-elven
Nov 25 2014, 10:36pm
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Trying not to confuse the audience?
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Jackson made a serious effort in LotR to distinguish the various peoples of Middle Earth, and did a remarkably good job, I think. Elves are very distinct from Men, for example, and the Rivendell culture was also distinct from that of Lorien. I do see Thranduil's Elves as being distinguished from either the Rivendell or Lorien Elves, but the darker tone of the Hobbit movies probably precludes too much La La Lally and partying.
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delius82
Rivendell
Nov 25 2014, 10:44pm
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I can see your point.
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Retro315
Rivendell
Nov 26 2014, 3:41am
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I've always sort of had a big difference in my head between the civilized Noldor west of the Misty Mountains and the Wood-elves, as well as the Galadhrim. For starters, when I thought of their degree of feral style, and relationship to nature, things like pristine tailored clothes and immaculately combed hair didn't occur to me. Thranduil especially, I pictured with wild hair, with twigs and leaves tangled in it.
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elvish.mafia
Bree
Nov 26 2014, 7:20am
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Is why the Mirkwood elves get drunk so easily, and yet Legolas doesn't even get tipsy in ROTK?
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Danielos
Rohan
Nov 26 2014, 7:38am
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The biggest problem with the film elves are that Legolas & Tauriel seem like superheroes. What is there really to fear from orchs and Sauron if a single elf easily can slaughter a whole army?
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jkm7
Bree
Nov 26 2014, 2:35pm
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The Dorwinion wine of the elves
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is probably a lot more potent than the ale of the Rohirrim. Plus Elros and Galion (were these their names?) drank from the wine meant for Thranduil. So I would think there was some extra strong liqueur mixed into it.
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Carnivoran
The Shire
Nov 26 2014, 4:08pm
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Sometimes I think Lorien elves looked bland
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I think the Mirkwood elves really embody the "forest or wood-elf" appearance with the extreme amount of leaf motifs and camouflage. In comparison now, I think the grey of the Lorien elves looks a bit bland.
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Blustar
The Shire
Nov 26 2014, 4:46pm
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even in the books, Orcs in general are no match for the Elves, it's the sheer number of Orcs which makes them dangerous.
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joec_34
Rivendell
Nov 26 2014, 5:50pm
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Boring like when the party is over and you're all alone.
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I see what you mean about the Lorien elves being more "bland". I always took it as simple elegance, at least in architecture & clothing. Combine that with their hearts being set on travelling West, and I think that's what made Lorien bland. I like to think of it like when you finish cleaning up after a great party, sit down on the couch, and everything seems boring. That's the way that I thought Lorien felt. I like it; good job PJ&Co. P.S. In Mirkwood, however, the party is still going, and it shows. (Literally: the feast of starlight, or whatever Tauriel called it.)
"Happy painting and God bless, my friend." - Bob Ross
(This post was edited by joec_34 on Nov 26 2014, 5:53pm)
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