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Finally it's out. The Kili-Tauriel situation according to the creators [spoilers]
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 4:01am

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Honestly, this isn't something that interests me [In reply to] Can't Post

so I've not paid attention to any meme, images or whatnots around it. Heck, I even came across the quote by accident.

But for what it's worth, there's a peripheral encounter or half lying about, and this is the closest I see to angst for the star-crossed romance that's not meant to be (and apparently everyone involved knows it's supposed to be, like candy floss perhaps? Or is that too defined even for this ethereal thing that can be glimpsed but not seen), oops, relationship to one-up Gimli and Galadriel... eh... this multi-part multi-hyphenated thing that's so dignifiably/incomprehensibily (pick one) undefinable it's like navigating the Sea of Helcar on foot with Fingolfin's party.

Yeah, what a perfectly crafted concept to bring out one for the girls.



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Nice avie btwHeart

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 4:10am

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Well-said! [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems one can't voice an opinion or even point to evidence, that's from the creators, that's counter to the romance of this (not)romance, relationship... thing without being safe from labels like naysayers or worse, haters. Refreshing to see a supporter of one-half of the affected pair being brave and on this side of the fence.Smile

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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Nov 19 2014, 4:12am

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It's about as subtle as a murmukil traipsing towards the Pelennors, isn't it? [In reply to] Can't Post

And yet there's all these other terms it's called by fans and the cast/crew themselves all this time but the one the creators have finally called itLaugh

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Avandel
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Nov 19 2014, 3:56pm

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and fades like a shadow of a shadow [In reply to] Can't Post


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...Or is that too defined even for this ethereal thing that can be glimpsed but not seen), oops, relationship to one-up Gimli and Galadriel... eh... this multi-part multi-hyphenated thing that's so dignifiably/incomprehensibily (pick one) undefinable it's like navigating the Sea of Helcar on foot with Fingolfin's party.

...and anyway from the looks of TV spots, there will be a "moment", of sorts (another one that anyone else in the immediate vicinity never seems to pay attention to, perhaps because of the ethereal mystical nature of the undefined THING that was only ever there sort of)...and I said to myself then, well, that's that then. Unimpressed

Much like an airy souffle collapsing in on itself that had once caused the dinner guests to gasp in awe at the audacity and debate fiercely over its medley of indefinable flavors, is now a deflated cold pancake congealing in the dish as everyone looks forward to dessert and coffee.Evil

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Cirashala
Valinor


Nov 20 2014, 7:19am

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I don't see what you see in this "relationship" [In reply to] Can't Post

I see compassion and a bit of confusion on her side, and a crush and delirious rambling on his part...

But for what it's worth, I LOVE THAT PICTURE! Oh, my gosh, I laughed so hard at that!

Maybe this meeting was not an interrogation but rather a subtle means for these two leaders who hate each other with a vengeance to try to find enough common ground so they could work together to try and figure out how to break them up? Tongue

Thanks for the great laugh! Laugh



namarie
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Nov 20 2014, 9:37am

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exactly :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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lionoferebor
Rohan

Dec 13 2014, 1:17pm

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Frankly I think they were going to focus on Kili one way or another, this is just one of the ways they chose to do so. Even if Tauriel and Kili were just obviously pals and not even the slightest hint of anything remotely love story-ish, it would have been Kili. Even if Tauriel had been a young guy elf, it would have been Kili.

Anyone blaming the "love story" for supposed lack of Fili is barking up the wrong tree, IMO.


Maybe that is true that they would've focused on Kili anyway, but they could have done that through a relationship with his brother.


lionoferebor
Rohan

Dec 13 2014, 1:23pm

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The healing scene [In reply to] Can't Post


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I admit I didn't like the "healing scene," mostly because it was so poorly done, but why all the hate about this so-called romance? There are so many different ways to be romantic, and I really don't see anything offensive here. Let's look at Kili's speech:

"You cannot be her. She is far away. She... she is far, far away from me. She walks in starlight in another world. It was just a dream. [holds her hand] Do you think she could have loved me?"

My two cents, for what it's worth, is that Kili is very aware that this relationship will go nowhere. She might as well be in another world. And the question, "do you think she could have loved me?" means Kili knows Tauriel doesn't care about him that way. There's an interest, there's even some common ground, but nothing more. If there is a romance, it's completely one-sided. And really, what is so horrible about THAT?


Kili should thank Tauriel for saving him - it's the right thing to do. My problem with this scene is after a near death experience he doesn't acknowledge those closet to him...like his brother. He doesn't even ask about his uncle or his mother. You would think after being the brink of death he would have thought of his family...but he doesn't.

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