Our Sponsor Sideshow Collectibles Send us News
Lord of the Rings Tolkien
Search Tolkien
Lord of The RingsTheOneRing.net - Forged By And For Fans Of JRR Tolkien
Lord of The Rings Serving Middle-Earth Since The First Age

Lord of the Rings Movie News - J.R.R. Tolkien
Do you enjoy the 100% volunteer, not for profit services of TheOneRing.net?
Consider a donation!

  Main Index   Search Posts   Who's Online   Log in
The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Reading Room:
oh, THAT Speer

a.s.
Valinor


Mar 10 2007, 4:15pm


Views: 90
Shortcut
oh, THAT Speer [In reply to] Can't Post

I would insert a smiley here, but respect your allergy.


Quote

Please note that I don't think Tolkien knew or cared much about these men -- I want to be clear that Nasmith's is the vision that made me think of this subject. Nasmith is of our own generation, and grew up in a world heavily influenced by the grandiose science-fiction/fantasy urban designs of the modern era. But Nasmith is painting what he saw when he read Tolkien's description of Gondolin.

Tolkien's antimodernism, expressed as medieval "Elvish" fantasies, drew on an idealized monarchical and antidemocratic tradition. In his writing about Gondolin (rather than his almost meaningless sketch) the idea of the central planner and controller of the "perfect city" is very strong



It's interesting, your connection between the Naismith picture and the other "urban planners" (I realize that's not exactly who they were).

Even if Tolkien didn't have this kind of setting clearly in mind, one has to wonder about generational influences. All these men were of Tolkien's generation, and though all follow individual paths, there are common influences on all of us within our common generation. For my generation, the 60s influenced us all no matter if we ended up rebelling against or accepting the "turn on, tune in, drop out" messages.

These men making their centrally controlled urban utopias were all Tolkien contemporaries.

a.s.

"an seileachan"

Everybody's wondering what and where they all came from.
Everybody's worried 'bout where they're gonna go when the whole thing's done.
No one knows for certain, and so it's all the same to me:
I think I'll just let the mystery be.
~~~~Iris DeMent

Subject User Time
JRRT Artist and Illustrator, Chapter 2 Visons, Myths and Legends Part II Saelind Send a private message to Saelind Mar 7 2007, 12:13am
    Mithrim Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Mar 7 2007, 2:49am
        "only a glimpse" of all the Elven halls a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 7 2007, 12:01pm
            far away Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Mar 8 2007, 3:02am
    Looks pretty much like Draupne Send a private message to Draupne Mar 7 2007, 6:58pm
    Did people not eat in Gondolin? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 7 2007, 7:02pm
        I like the cultivated fields Nasmith adds drogo Send a private message to drogo Mar 7 2007, 9:33pm
            That is nice. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 7 2007, 10:41pm
                Those do resemble Gondolin drogo Send a private message to drogo Mar 8 2007, 2:22am
    Not my Gondolin... weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 7 2007, 7:16pm
        yes, nestled! Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Mar 7 2007, 7:48pm
            If Rivendell looked like... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 7 2007, 8:36pm
                that is Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Mar 7 2007, 9:30pm
        "A savage place ! as holy and enchanted" a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 7 2007, 9:27pm
            Xanadu works, too -- and nice additional images! weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 7 2007, 11:10pm
            Didn't Tolkien paint a "Xanadu"? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 7 2007, 11:43pm
                Yes, he did. Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Mar 8 2007, 1:19am
                    It appears in Chapter 2 Wynnie Send a private message to Wynnie Mar 8 2007, 1:49am
                        Oops. Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Mar 8 2007, 2:07am
                    I thought about it first!!!!!! a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 8 2007, 1:51am
                        *Awards brownie points* Kimi Send a private message to Kimi Mar 8 2007, 2:06am
        I saw Tolkien's image of Gondolin before I read... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 7 2007, 11:20pm
    Gondolin, Isengard, Le Corbusier, and Speer squire Send a private message to squire Mar 9 2007, 3:58am
        Nice catch! N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 9 2007, 4:14am
        who's Cobusier? Wright? Speer? a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 9 2007, 11:27am
            A little background squire Send a private message to squire Mar 9 2007, 1:53pm
                oh, THAT Speer a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 10 2007, 4:15pm
        "a Hitler-like obsession with scale and simplistic icons" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 10 2007, 12:31am
            "...I reach for my mouse" squire Send a private message to squire Mar 10 2007, 4:28am

 
 
 

Search for (options) Powered by Gossamer Forum v.1.2.3

home | advertising | contact us | back to top | search news | join list | Content Rating

This site is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings, and is in no way affiliated with Tolkien Enterprises or the Tolkien Estate. We in no way claim the artwork displayed to be our own. Copyrights and trademarks for the books, films, articles, and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design and original photography however are copyright © 1999-2012 TheOneRing.net. Binary hosting provided by Nexcess.net

Do not follow this link, or your host will be blocked from this site. This is a spider trap.