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There's More Elves and Gandalf!

caglarkuraner
Bree

Sep 29 2014, 9:27am

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Peter Jackson explains how he's expanding The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies


http://www.totalfilm.com/...e-of-the-five-armies


Spriggan
Tol Eressea

Sep 29 2014, 9:45am

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Is that the first mention of [In reply to] Can't Post

trolls?


DeadRabbits
Rohan


Sep 29 2014, 11:52am

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No, PJ mentionded trolls in the interview with Empire Magazine... [In reply to] Can't Post

... along with some different "creatures" in the orc army.

"All the Middle-earth battles have been different because they tell different stories", Jackson insists. "Here I wanted to do things we had never done before. Obviously there are orcs fighting elves and men, but I wanted to bring in more creatures. The orcs have all manners of creatures. Not just trolls, but creatures they have bred for their armies. They are like the panzer tanks of the orc armies."


Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Spriggan
Tol Eressea

Sep 29 2014, 12:04pm

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Ah thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

I remembered the "other creatures" but had forgotten about the trolls.


TheHutt
Gondor


Sep 29 2014, 12:30pm

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I don't really see a confirmation of trolls... [In reply to] Can't Post

...it is rather a juxtaposition: we know that orcs have trolls fighting for them (from LOTR), but this time they have other creatures they bred for their armies.

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 29 2014, 12:39pm

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Key Quote from TF... [In reply to] Can't Post

...."As for mixing character moments with action, he says: "What we're trying to do is have a lot of that conflict and resolution happen during the course of the battle, so it doesn't just become all action.

"There's still a plot with the characters to follow, even though they're surrounded by fighting trolls and orcs and things."..

Remember PJ said that in HIS Battlezz
about every 4th shot should be about
the Principles in Battle,

so like
Helms Deep much that
happens...
HAPPENZZ...to our
Heros..

WITH about 20+ Characters we care about?
Thizz will be why
It will be so
EPIC!

Yea! PJ
Crazy

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"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


DeadRabbits
Rohan


Sep 29 2014, 12:59pm

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Well, coupled with the quote from Total Film... [In reply to] Can't Post

"... they're surrounded by fighting trolls and orcs and things."

... it's kinda difficult to see that it's anything else than a confirmation of trolls being present att BotFA.

Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 29 2014, 1:15pm

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Well, wazz Watching EE of AUJ last night... [In reply to] Can't Post

& it struck bomby that
AZOG is introduced
Az the Giant Gundabad ORC....

Well, could there be
Other Giant Gundabad orcs...?

Bolg is about the same height...
so maybe,
maybe NOT?

Can ORCzz Cross-breed with TROLLzz?

There could be "Fouler Thingiezz?"... hidden
within the Mountains of Gundabad?

Jus' a Thought
bom
Crazy

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"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


DeadRabbits
Rohan


Sep 29 2014, 1:39pm

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Most certainly, I expect Azog/Bolg's bodyguard to be massive... [In reply to] Can't Post

... however, I don't think anyone of the big orcs are crossbreeds between orcs and trolls. PJ has mentioned somewhere that Azog is of a "purer" breed than the other orcs, and hence a little closer to the orcish race's elvish roots.

Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Sep 29 2014, 2:09pm

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Much of Peter's conflict resolution is built-in... [In reply to] Can't Post

Most of the conflicts that could be resolved have been set up in the previous two films. Azog/Thorin; Bolg/Legolas; Beorn/Azog; Kili/Tauriel/Legolas; etc.

Thorin/Bilbo should be resolved on Thorin's deathbed.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Arannir
Valinor


Sep 29 2014, 2:31pm

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More news... [In reply to] Can't Post

... Doug Adams is also back in NZ this week for more Bot5A music :)

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



Bladerunner
Gondor


Sep 30 2014, 1:37am

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The most interesting conflicts... [In reply to] Can't Post

...for me will be:
+ Bilbo/Thorin
+ Thorin/Gandalf
+ Thorin/Elvenking
+ Gandalf/Saruman
+ Bard/Smaug

A few other minor conflicts may also play out in the last film including
+ Thorin/Balin (to a lesser extent but would be interesting nonetheless)
+ Elvenking/Tauriel
+ Bard/Alfrid/the Master


zalmoxis
Bree

Sep 30 2014, 3:53pm

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Oh... [In reply to] Can't Post

good to know that Jackson seems to assert his (hopefully!) last ME movie is not just an ad for techs / "it doesn't just become all action."

"There's still a plot with the characters to follow, even though they're surrounded by fighting trolls and orcs and things."..

Hurrah!
There's actually a PLOT!!

THERE'S STILL A PLOT!!!!

THX PJ!
"It will be so EPIC! "

Heart


 
 

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