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Don't remember book but re film will Thorin and Dain ever actually talk (poss. spoilery)
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Avandel
Half-elven


Sep 24 2014, 12:51am

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Thank you tho think we can assume there will be SOME explanation [In reply to] Can't Post

In the films - logically - otherwise you have an audience doing exactly what I would - so who's THIS guy? And why does he get to be king? Shocked

Just thought it would have been interesting to see Armitage and Connolly interacting, albeit briefly.Frown And now that I think about it, from a FILM perspective it would be gentler with all of Thorin's sufferings and struggles to get to Erebor, that it would *be nice* (especially for us Thorin fans) if there were a sort of passing of the torch script line. Otherwise (for me) it's something of a strain, thinking about someone who never says a word to the dying Thorin and then just ends up with everything, especially since Dain among others had said the Company was on its own, early on. Tho Dain DOES come to the rescue, ultimately.

As written, of course, the scene is really about Thorin and Bilbo *sigh*.


Hó , Það sé ég föður minn
Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
Hvar hugrakkir mun lifa að eilífu






(This post was edited by Avandel on Sep 24 2014, 1:00am)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Sep 24 2014, 2:22pm

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Some mention of their relationship will likely be made. [In reply to] Can't Post


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In the films - logically - otherwise you have an audience doing exactly what I would - so who's THIS guy? And why does he get to be king? Shocked



Did anyone remark in TH:AUJ that Dain was Thorin's cousin? If not, it would be easy enough for either Thorin or Balin to mention this to Bilbo at some point. They could even clarify that Dain is Thorin's closest male relative after Fili and Kili. Dwarven society (at least among the Longbeards) doesn't seem to recognize the right of a Dwarf-woman to rule--leaving Thorin's sister Dis out of the equation). For that matter, the tapestry that Bard located in Lake-town (if it survived Smaug's attack) also spells out these relationships.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Holly Hobbit
Bree

Sep 24 2014, 3:11pm

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I don't recall them talking in the novel. [In reply to] Can't Post

However, I am sure that may be changed for the movie.

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