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Elessar
Valinor
Aug 10 2014, 10:15pm
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The more I look at it and study it that is.
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leonmuse
Rivendell
Aug 10 2014, 11:12pm
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Thorin in these films is so cool that it kinda makes one wish he survived and had a role to play in the War of the Ring.
But sadly (and for variety's sake fortunately) he, as a character and as a King is the exact opposite of Aragorn:
Thorin: proud, short tempered, unkind, blind (or determined to be so) and victim of Sauron
Aragorn: humble, patient, friendly, fully aware of a real Enemy and triumphant over Sauron
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Avandel
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Aug 11 2014, 1:45am
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I just can't believe...possibly spoilery!
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Unless... Unless! Peter Jackson uses the "gold being softer than steel" possibility to leave a weak spot in Thorin's "shining defense", thus being why and how he gets stabbed. Would be neat, wouldn't it?
IMO noooooooooo!  It's one thing to go down fighting re Azog being like a foot taller and the "cheat" of being on a warg taller than you at the shoulder. It's another thing for dwarves - especially Thorin who knew enough to gauge how long gold would take to melt if the forges were fully fired - not to know how to forge a tough alloyed armor.
I'm thinking re my fuzzy book memories and RA alluding to a "suicidal charge" that it'll be kind of like the book - a last desperate act and the Erebor dwarves are just overwhelmed - they may not even BE in armour except chain maille as they figure they are not going to live, and re some books I read on armour soldiers would dump the stuff - a piece here, a piece there, because it's protective but hot and heavy and you can't fight as well. So I think they are just going to take the attitude of taking as many orcs as possible with them *sob*. "Will you follow me, one last time..."
It will be epic and horrible to watch.
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Esmeralda
Bree
Aug 11 2014, 3:03am
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Thror at Azinulbizar is bulkier than Thorin is now, so...
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…it makes sense to me that the Ereborian armory would contain multiple sets of armor made for Thror over his lifetime, and it's one of these that Thorin takes as his own.
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Aug 11 2014, 11:07am
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*moves over* Snacks? I thought we'd be doomsday preppin'!
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Which includes the casting  . And while I love the fact that VM slept with his horse the way I love Mikael Persbrandt hanging out with wolves, and POSSIBLY VM was a better natural swordsman than many, at the end of the day I COULD - and always could - see another actor playing Aragorn. One who was grimmer looking. *Cough* one who had a "power voice*. I don't know who (it wouldn't have been Stuart Townsend either...)   , that PJ's brief to casting was simply get whoever fits the role best, regardless of experience, fame, or whatever.
I really like Strider in the movie, don't get me wrong. But well, there's a lot I expected of Aragorn, and despite umpteen EE viewings I'm still waiting for Aragorn, Isildur's Heir, Elessar the Elfstone to make proper appearances rather than flash-by once in a while. After so long, I don't think I'm wrong in my consistent but admittedly very personal feelings about the movie!Aragorn. The closest I can get for an equivalent of movie!Aragorn vs book!Aragorn is Quintesson. No, wait, hear me out. The book!Aragorn clearly has many identities. Tolkien writes distinctly the changes in his carriage and even his charisma from situation to situation. So movie!Aragorn is like a Quintesson who somehow talks mostly with that one face regardless of the situation. It's a great face, but hey, the other faces don't get much exercise - maybe a cog is loose or a gear needs some oiling - and that's not the complete quintesson experience. 
*ahem* So off the bat I can name two actors I think would rock more than one aspect of the Aragorn character, not only from ruggedly scruffy beardedness, to physicality to refined kingly bearing, but in their talented ability and versatility as well... but they're already gainfully employed and otherwise engaged and it's a reality I can certainly live with 
What'dya mean "misguided"? What you term "Thorin Thralldom" is simply a mentally and physically healthful acceptance, and embracing of, an exquisite reality of existence that has been gifted to the world by the brilliant combined talents of many, not the least an utterly amazing actor who just happens to have a voice of a god and evidently a penchant for fine wines . *Cough* as well as Caribbean-summer blue eyes and luminous skin and a smile that makes you swear to be a better person, if you could just see that once more *ahem*. *snertle* Well do I get it, and there you prove it, doubly. *points at second part of Avandel's sig as supporting *
Oh for sure, IMO, visually they are killing it and continue to kill it left and right, in my not so humble opinion. I was just being polite about their no doubt killer-swag in BotFA, specifically in BATTLE which we have not properly seen, as I personally dislike absolute finalities in fan pronouncements which is so prevalent these days.
Wow! 65"! Well, I've been drooling over the 4K models since our aging 47" is starting to hint at retirement but boy are they Ex.ORBIT.ANT!!! I cannot afford full-retail and I refuse to pay installments on instantenously depreciating purchases so we'll just have to languish and hope the old fogey holds out.
You know how I respect your equal-opportunism and your Thranduil appreciation so no more need be said Now I add to that your showing yourself in this little shelter like this.
*goes back to reinforcing shelter*
I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
 Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Vila
The Shire
Aug 11 2014, 2:12pm
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It's from the cover of the Visual Companion
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The picture of Thorin with his golden armour it's from El Anillo Único, it's the the cover of the The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Visual Companion by Jude Fisher. The book it's available for pre-order in Amazon.es
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Aug 11 2014, 6:08pm
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Unless... Unless! Peter Jackson uses the "gold being softer than steel" possibility to leave a weak spot in Thorin's "shining defense", thus being why and how he gets stabbed. Would be neat, wouldn't it?
I would think that Thorin's armor would be gold-plated rather than solid gold--although the Dwarves might have a method of producing a gold alloy that would be as strong as steel.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Meneldor
Valinor
Aug 12 2014, 2:15am
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I believe Tony Stark holds the patent
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on that particular alloy.
They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107
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Silverlode
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Aug 12 2014, 8:04am
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I'm envisioning Thorin meeting Tony Stark. Throw in Thranduil and his elven armor, and it would be a snarkfest for the ages. The Snark vs. The Glare vs. The Sass.
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Aug 12 2014, 9:04am
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I'm envisioning Thorin meeting Tony Stark. Throw in Thranduil and his elven armor, and it would be a snarkfest for the ages. The Snark vs. The Glare vs. The Sass.
I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Aug 13 2014, 12:07pm
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So Thorin is a dragon hybrid spawn then huh? Explains a lot //
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I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback by Kerewyn(new, posted 10 August), Four
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Avandel
Half-elven
Aug 13 2014, 6:08pm
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Intriguing idea - dragon blood
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tho I personally have a suspicion that there's some ELVEN blood roaming through the House of Durin - not sure how it got there, but w. the dwarves roaming all over and their love of ale, who knows where some of them end up. Even if they don't remember much in the morning. 
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Aug 14 2014, 12:45pm
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LOL Well, whoever it is in his pedigree,
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he definitely got da Voice. Frankly, *dare I say it* he's quite the opposite of Aragorn imo. As I said in the hideout shelter, in reference to the books, I didn't get all the Aragorn I was expecting. But with Thorin, I got far more than I imagined. There, now I've dug myself in for sure.
I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback by Kerewyn (new, posted 10 August), Four
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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(This post was edited by Lurker in the Mirk on Aug 14 2014, 12:46pm)
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Avandel
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Aug 14 2014, 4:28pm
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he definitely got da Voice. Frankly, *dare I say it* he's quite the opposite of Aragorn imo. As I said in the hideout shelter, in reference to the books, I didn't get all the Aragorn I was expecting. But with Thorin, I got far more than I imagined. There, now I've dug myself in for sure. "in reference to the books, I didn't get all the Aragorn I was expecting.... But with Thorin, I got far more than I imagined."
Thank you for this, it sums up what I've thought and felt for a while, tho I'm more long-winded about it. But that's what I mean in that I could imagine someone else playing Aragorn - just not sure who - and that's been true ever since I first saw LOTR, long before there was the Hobbit movies. Definitely would take VM way over ST tho, as I tripped over some images of Stuart Townsend and at least in those pictures he just looks SO young. Soft eyes. Just no. Aragorn was supposed to have the weathering of one who had spent years in the wild and gone through many dangers, alone.
RA's Thorin - well, yeah. I've waxed on about the multi-dimensional performance, the heart-stopping voice, and the Celtic-legend-god-warrior-beyond stunning look often enough *grins* and how often I think the camera loves this Thorin. You can keep your garden gnome dwarves
But will add MF's Bilbo was far more than I was expecting too. And frankly so is LP's Thranduil, that a "true" Elven King would come to life *jawdropping*
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Aug 15 2014, 9:34am
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we may burn at different speeds, so I just want to say: it's been an absolute pleasure.
This goes without saying. MF's Bilbo is just GREAT! But the Elvenking! I've said it in one of the TA threads before: NOT in my wildest imagination did I think a live-action Thranduil could ever work in all aspects: looks, ability, voice, carriage, believability. But LP's Thranduil... woah, we even get the clincher bonus of HEIGHT!!! I'm deliriously happy to be smacked silly and proven wrong
*ahem* Leave a wall for my kitty supplies will'ya ... they're being delivered as we speak
I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, three-appendix: An Unexpected Flashback by Kerewyn (new, posted 10 August), Four
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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