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The Portrait of Bilbo in AUJ

SGH9564
The Shire

Aug 5 2014, 5:54pm

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With the trilogy coming to a close in the coming months i decided to watch AUJ again to prepare for the end, and while watching the intro with Ian Holm's Bilbo, I pondered upon something that I would normally dismiss. When Bilbo first opens the red book and stares at the old portrait of himself I could not help but think that one of the members of Thorin's Company must have given it to him, as he has several portraits of family members and even himself elsewhere in the house, but this one he keeps in the chest with all his various other mementos from the Quest of Erebor, clearly indicating that this portrait was related to the quest. My personal theory is that Ori is the one who draws it and gifts it to Bilbo in the third movie or perhaps in the extended edition of DOS, this would accomplish three things that would be beneficial to the trilogy as a whole

1. It would give Ori a nice moment with Bilbo (He perhaps has some of the least screen time of any of the dwarves)
2. It would help connect the third movie back to a moment in the prologue of the first movie
3. Cement the fact that Bilbo was not so much concerned with his younger appearance in that moment, but was rather reminiscing about an old friend who drew it for him. (Which would be nice for his character)

Perhaps I am just crazy and giving too much credit for the ability of the crew to plan ahead, but I truly believe we will get something to due with this portrait in the coming movie. Further evidence to indicate that it is infact Ori would be that it is known that he carries around a journal and writing implements and that the paper it is on seems to be about the same dimensions as Ori's book.

What do you guys think? Discuss away!


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 5 2014, 6:56pm

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Daniel Reeve confirmed who drew the picture of (young) Bilbo last year. [In reply to] Can't Post

Link to source


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My portrait of young Bilbo, "as drawn by Ori", for the prologue of An Unexpected Journey.


I suspect it will come full circle, and we will see Ori pass it to Bilbo as a parting gift.



SGH9564
The Shire

Aug 5 2014, 7:15pm

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My Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you for this, I was completely unaware that this was already confirmed. Well now I feel a bit silly, oh well such is the nature of life. I am looking forward to the scene as you said, it should bring things full circle quite nicely.


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 5 2014, 7:41pm

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Hey, no problem! [In reply to] Can't Post

And don't fret, at least you know you were on the right lines. Wink

Perhaps all the Dwarves give Bilbo a parting present?



TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 5 2014, 8:01pm

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Daniel Reeve... [In reply to] Can't Post

...has told me that he drew all the dwarves from Thorin's company in the same style. Some of these pictures can be seen in the Hobbit Chronicles: Cloaks & Daggers.

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Booklet Project



Bombadil
Half-elven

Aug 5 2014, 8:30pm

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An OLD TRIVA ...answer & source? [In reply to] Can't Post

Back in 2002
the Idea?..
of having Drawingzz
of the Main Characters in LOTR

(For The Final Credits of ROTKing?)

WAS!
(BIGGIE...Drum Role, Please)

..Sir Ian McKellen's...
Drawn by Alan Lee
& John Howe...

AIN'T IT COOL?
We get thizzz..

ONCE Again
to Finally
Close out
TH!

{Sob, Sob...
Sobbing... Some More...Onceagain...}

Crazy


(This post was edited by Bombadil on Aug 5 2014, 8:34pm)


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Aug 5 2014, 9:44pm

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I'm glad you brought it up [In reply to] Can't Post

I am very much looking forward to the moment with Ori and I hope it's included in the TE of the movie because it will be so poignant and such a great little moment. Cheers to BoT5A in December!

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Elessar
Valinor


Aug 5 2014, 11:29pm

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I have one [In reply to] Can't Post

When I got my custom Red Book made the gentleman who made it also put a replica of this in there. I would like one from Weta created my Mr. Reeve.



Bombadil
Half-elven

Aug 6 2014, 2:14am

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TIS Possible...thaa-at... DURIn?.ing these FINAL.. [In reply to] Can't Post

CREDITS...

THERE will be
a WORLD-wide... WEEP-ing?

Spread over
Everyone in
ALL TIME Zones..

& grab your
"INNER BILBO"

ALL of us get
to go home?

There & BACK Again..
.
& TEACH many Generations
( that aren't even born?,,Yet.)

JUS' like
OUR Professor
Taught us?
.

Bomy izz
SURE of THIS!


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 2:26am

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I'm sure I'll be emotional. [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Kim
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 3:04am

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Yes, I'm quite sure of it [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll be there, box of tissues in hand.

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Aug 6 2014, 4:39am

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I just showed my Redbook [In reply to] Can't Post

to my 15yo g'daughter, and she nearly cried... especially looking at Bilbo's image. It's fantastic :)




6th draft of TH:AUJ Geeky Observation List - November 28, 2013
4th draft of TH:DOS Geeky Observation List - May 15, 2014



sample

"There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West."

I'm SO HAPPY these new films take me back to that magical world!!



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TORn's Geeky Observations Lists for LotR and The Hobbit


Bombadil
Half-elven

Aug 6 2014, 10:15am

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This has been written about?.. .. ... ... [In reply to] Can't Post

ADAM Brown has been shown in your AUJ Videos(getting fitted for his "Ori" costume)
AND saying
..."I'm the Only One of THE 13..shown in "The Fellowship of the Ring"
(Loyal to his last, LAST.. Breath.. ...to Balin...)

Azz....DEAD ORI @ Balin's TOMB

The Huge BOOK Gandalf picks up & reads
"They are Coming.."...was written by Ori's hand..

Jus' a reminder. AND

PJ has said "Every Dwarve gets his Hero Moment.."
ONE of Ori's Hero Momentzz... extends into FOTR
quite likely to show how

....Writers
AND Illustrators
Like JRRT was...

...Move Mountains
with their words.
AND drawings

(A..FULL Circle )

May it Be?....IT is not SOooo.. Bad...
Being an old WeirdoWRITER
... AND..
WORDIlustrator.. ?
in an OldForest..
after ALL?

Heart


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 11:17am

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Nice! [In reply to] Can't Post

That book is so great! Well worth the money. Cool



dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 6 2014, 2:44pm

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Book? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 6:25pm

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It's a custom [In reply to] Can't Post

There is a guy who will make you a custom Red Book for a price. I can send you a PM to his site if you want. Cool



Eruclauron
Bree


Aug 6 2014, 6:37pm

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Could you send it to me too? [In reply to] Can't Post

I've always loved those books in the films.
As for the drawing, I'd love to see Ori give it to Bilbo! It would be such a nice moment to see. Smile



dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 6 2014, 6:42pm

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Yes please... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm guessing from your post and gramma's that its something rather special! Smile


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 7:00pm

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I sure can. :) [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Elessar
Valinor


Aug 6 2014, 7:01pm

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It's fantastic! [In reply to] Can't Post

It is the best item in my collection.



DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 6 2014, 7:07pm

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As a suggestion ... [In reply to] Can't Post

If there are enough people on the forum that want to purchase one, then I'm guessing he might do a deal on multiple purchases (since he did one for you on another forum, Elessar, if I'm right?)

I got a quote a couple of years ago from him, but it was out of my price range; beautiful as it is.



dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 6 2014, 10:17pm

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Would you be interested, Daniel? [In reply to] Can't Post

Can at least ask him...

It does look amazing. I will ask for a quote anyway, just because I can't not. Many things I can resist, but not books!


DanielLB
Immortal


Aug 7 2014, 1:14am

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It's a thumbs up from me. [In reply to] Can't Post

Especially if we can get a group discount. Well worth enquiring about. I would have thought there would be enough of us here interested in purchasing.

Smile



Elessar
Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 1:16am

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I hope you all can [In reply to] Can't Post

It's such a fantastic piece. Greatest piece in my collection.



Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 7 2014, 3:35pm

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Enjoying the discussion... [In reply to] Can't Post

and resisting the temptation of the red book, which I probably can't afford.Frown

But anyway, just want to comment re the OP's nic: If SGH9564 is your car license plate number, I reckon it's only polite to say "Hi" to a fellow resident of the little red dot. If I got it wrong, I didn't say nuthin' Smile


I'm a lurker. Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.


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