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Another way to look at it

squire
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Jul 15, 5:12am


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I appreciate that the absence of evidence is not evidence. Still, to me the likelihood of Bard being unmarried at the time of the events of The Hobbit is quite high, in the context of the story as a whole. Of course The Hobbit is famous for having no female characters, but when you think about it, it has almost no implicit female characters either. Almost none of the male characters are said to be married, to have children, or even to be the child of a named father (thus implying an unnamed mother).

Characters in The Hobbit who are not said to be married:
Bilbo Baggins
Bullroarer Took
Golfimbul
Gandalf
Radagast
Thorin Oakenshield
Fili
Kili
Balin
Dwalin
Oin
Gloin
Ori
Dori
Nori
Bifur
Bofur
Bombur
The Necromancer
Elrond
Tom
Bert
William
The Great Goblin
Gollum
The Lord of the Eagles
Beorn
The Elvenking
Galion
The Master of Lake-town
Smaug
Rońc
Bard
Dain
Bolg
Chubb
Chubb
Burrowes

Characters in The Hobbit who are said to be or to have been married:
Bungo Baggins, Bilbo's father
Belladonna Took, Bilbo's mother
The Old Took, Bilbo's maternal grandfather
Carc, whose son is Roac
The Sackville-Bagginses, mentioned as a family


Now for many of the above apparently unmarried characters, Tolkien added or implied wives when he continued their stories into The Lord of the Rings: Elrond, The Elven King, Gloin, Beorn, and Bard, if not others as well. But if you take him as he was first written, in the only story in which he is actually a character and not a mere reference, that is in The Hobbit, Bard is hardly alone in being single -- not by the author's thoughtless omission, or specific intention, much less by the standard of a typical human society, but simply by the heroic convention of the story he is in.



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An Alternate Take on Bard (Timeline of 'The One Ring') Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 13, 3:12pm
    Well, it's interesting and a nice enough story... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 13, 6:10pm
        I find this far closer to Tolkien, myself. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 13, 8:14pm
            Sorry, I must be missing something here... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 13, 10:44pm
                Occam's Razor Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 11:46am
                    And a man of 30 can't have fathered children? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 14, 1:34pm
                        You are being deliberately obtuse, dormouse. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 7:40pm
                            No, sorry, I wasn't.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 14, 8:01pm
                                All right. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 8:18pm
                        Well Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 14, 8:07pm
                            Book-verse, not movie-verse. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 8:26pm
                                Yes, that's what I meant, book-verse versus movie-verse Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 14, 8:48pm
                                    Bard's single status is implied, not stated outright. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 8:56pm
                                        A worthy and courageous duck. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 14, 9:18pm
                                            Point noted. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 14, 9:24pm
                                                Thank you... Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 14, 9:30pm
                                        Another way to look at it squire Send a private message to squire Jul 15, 5:12am

 
 
 

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