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Lineage of Durin Tapestry with a small spoilerish image?
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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 6 2014, 10:47pm

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Durin I [In reply to] Can't Post

It was the original Durin, especially, who lived to an extremely old age.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


adt100
Lorien

Jul 7 2014, 10:05am

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Doesn't he ride a boar / 'war pig' in the book anyway? [In reply to] Can't Post

Pretty much the same thing so hardly a surprise really.


Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Jul 7 2014, 11:03am

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In the book, the Iron Hills dwarves marched at top speed to the Mountain on foot.

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Jul 7 2014, 11:06am

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I wonder [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you think that longer lifespans of the ancestral dwarves had something to do with their creation at the hands of Aule, and that they "diminished" over time as the generations wore on?

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


adt100
Lorien

Jul 7 2014, 3:11pm

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Ah right, not sure where I got that idea then! [In reply to] Can't Post

Been years since I actually read the book tbf, I wonder if he did in the Rankin & Bass cartoon.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 7 2014, 3:40pm

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Possibly. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Do you think that longer lifespans of the ancestral dwarves had something to do with their creation at the hands of Aule, and that they "diminished" over time as the generations wore on?



Good question. How many of Thorin (II)'s direct ancestors died of old age? How many might have lived for many more decades if they had not been killed prematurely?

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


MTT Gandalf
Bree


Jul 7 2014, 3:56pm

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Is Thorin a more direct descendant of Durin the Deathless? [In reply to] Can't Post

Balin is not less direct descendant of Durin the Deathless, but Balin looks older.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 7 2014, 5:08pm

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Balin is not less direct descendant of Durin the Deathless, but Balin looks older.



Yes, Thorin should look as old or older than Balin and Dwalin, but for the films the desire was to have a Thorin who looked like he could still sire an heir.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


MTT Gandalf
Bree


Jul 23 2014, 5:38pm

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About GOATS... [In reply to] Can't Post

.... There is an another topic about some "goat-spoiler":
http://newboards.theonering.net/...orum.cgi?post=759370

Could it be somehow connected with Ered Mithrim?


(This post was edited by MTT Gandalf on Jul 23 2014, 5:39pm)

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