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noWizardme
Half-elven
May 20 2014, 2:52pm
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"The Ivy Bush" is that little Inn on the Bywater road where you can get a quiet pint and a substantial 'infodump' about the Baggins family from Gaffer Gamgee (FOTR Ch 1)
It seemed familiar a a pub name, so I was a bit surprised to find (as far as I can tell from Google) no Ivy Bush pubs hereabouts in Oxfordshire. There is one in Edgebaston, which perhaps I visited when I lived in Birmingham, and perhaps Tolkien knew it when he lived thereabouts rather earlier.
Here's some fun scholarly stuff I did find about the appropriateness of The Ivy Bush as a pub name though: http://llyfrawr.com/...itonian/IvyBush.html
Cheers!
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"… ever let your aim be to come at truth, not to conquer your opponent. So you never shall be at a loss in losing the argument, and gaining a new discovery.”
Arthur Martine
"nowimë I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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Hamfast Gamgee
Tol Eressea
May 20 2014, 11:23pm
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Some people do seem to have an objection to info-dumping in fanfiction in particular but I don't really. In fact, I often think of it as essential background information. Lotr would have been a poorer book without these passages in my opinion. As for the Ivy Bush, I have wondered which pub was nearer to Hobbiton, the Ivy Bush or the Green Dragon. Or maybe the Green Dragon was for the hip young things and the Ivy Bush for the older folk.
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sador
Half-elven
May 21 2014, 7:54am
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Is that why Balin was the lookout for Bilbo?
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He felt the Dragon was below his dignity, so he went for a pint to the more appropriate place?
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Hamfast Gamgee
Tol Eressea
May 21 2014, 10:58pm
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To have drunk in both inns was Ted Sandyman as far as I can see. Which just goes to show, children, don't go drinking in too many Hobbiton pubs, or you might end up a Victorian factory owner and eventual puppet of evil Wizards!
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
May 22 2014, 3:55pm
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I don’t know the names of any pubs in Hobbiton. Maybe we should have a “Pub-Naming-Contest” as I’m sure Tolkien didn’t mention all the pubs in the Shire?
The Swill and Stagger
The Troll’s Hole
The Warg’s Head
The Quaff and Guzzle
The Totter In Inn
The Short Shot
The Hob Goblin
The Three-farthing Stoned
The Slaughtered Tater
More?
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Contact Messrs, Grubb, Grubb, and Burrowes.
Hole 17, Bywater Pool Road, Bywater,
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Timdalf
Rivendell
May 24 2014, 1:41pm
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where all the elite went... sort of the Ivy League of the Shire... I imagine the Sackville-Bagginses were regulars there! ;-)
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A pub is a pub, Bub. . .
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