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Was Smaug Over Confident that no one can touch him in his lair?

Girdle of Melian

Mar 7 2014, 6:39am

Post #1 of 6 (440 views)
Was Smaug Over Confident that no one can touch him in his lair? Can't Post

Why invade such a high profile kingdom, and risk letting your enemies know where your lair is?

I suppose he can always flee and fly away if he finds himself in a bind.


Mar 7 2014, 8:29am

Post #2 of 6 (249 views)
A dragon doesn't need to hide.... [In reply to] Can't Post

.. and couldn't if he wanted to, being so big. For most purposes, most of the time, his size and the fact that he can barbecue his enemies (and has a degree of magical power as well in his voice, and ability to persuade) - those things are protection enough.

But Smaug was over confident - Tolkien made that clear in the book.


Mar 7 2014, 10:08am

Post #3 of 6 (195 views)
But he needs his hide...// [In reply to] Can't Post


Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Mar 7 2014, 1:55pm

Post #4 of 6 (184 views)
Well, arrogance seems to be a dragon's natural state. [In reply to] Can't Post

And his confidence is somewhat justified. After all, Smaug was not killed in his lair; although he might have been if Tolkien had stuck with his original plan for the dragon. Imagine if Thorin had to remove the dragon's carcass from the bowels of Erebor.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Mar 7 2014, 3:06pm

Post #5 of 6 (175 views)
I think that was a huge point [In reply to] Can't Post

Tolkien was trying to make with Smaug's characterů.glutinous, greed and over confident/comfortable. He was definitely over confident.


Mar 7 2014, 4:30pm

Post #6 of 6 (152 views)
Well, the door was sealed [In reply to] Can't Post

So Smaug didn't really expect anyone to get in.

The mountain is really an extension of Smaug. He assumed Erebor was impenetrable, due to the sealed entrance, but the dwarves knew about the secret door. - Just as Smaug sees himself as impenetrable, but Bilbo knows about his loose scale. The loose scale and secret door are part of a running theme.


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