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simplyaven
Grey Havens
Jan 23 2014, 2:15am
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Screencap of the Day: Faces of War
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I've decided to try and present you with a slightly different view of an episode in the movie we all know so well.
Do we see the faces of war or rather the face of war as it truly is? Do you think we are given an opportunity to see another side of the otherwise epic and even enjoyable action of the battles? A side where there is sadness and pain on both sides, may be there is a realization of its price or the possible ending? I know I refer these moments to Faramir's talking about the Southern soldier's unknown name, about his probable life away from the bloody paths he had taken. What do you think about these two shots?
Any other thoughts are, of course, welcome. Thank you for participating.
You can find the bigger pictures here:
http://www.framecaplib.com/...es/rotk/rotk1287.htm
http://www.framecaplib.com/...es/rotk/rotk1288.htm
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(This post was edited by simplyaven on Jan 23 2014, 2:16am)
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Loresilme
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Jan 27 2014, 4:27pm
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I wondered about the Men who followed Saruman and Sauron
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It seemed clear enough to me that Orcs were inherently depraved enough for me to understand their following Sauron or Saruman. But I was a bit puzzled by the various Men who appeared at times throughout the story to lend a hand to that side. I recall a scene - I don't remember which of the three films, but I think it was in an EE - where a wild-looking Man appears before Saruman and proclaims dramatically, "We will die for Saruman!' and it really raised a little thought bubble over my head "???" :-) because I didn't know who this Men or group of people were that they would be willing to do that. I think there was a promise somewhere of lands being returned to them (perhaps I'm mixing up my scenes), but in any event, I guess overall the question is whether Men like these doing the fighting have come because they want to be there or because they're forced to be there. These are two good screencaps to reflect on in that respect, and a new take on a screencap that is usually just discussed in light of the cameos. Nice choices SA :-).
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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Jan 27 2014, 4:55pm
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The wild looking Men who fought for Saruman were said by him to have lost their lands to the Men of Rohan, so that Saruman was exploiting a grievance/disunity that existed between these two groups.
This sort of explanation is not offered for the Men who served Sauron, but the possibility that they had some reasonable motivation we could understand is thrown out as an option by Faramir's speech about the dead soldier in TTT.
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simplyaven
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Jan 27 2014, 7:24pm
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Yes, and these men were in the books, although as far as I remember, and it's been a few years since I re-read the LOTR, the exact events were different. However, Saruman did attract the mountain men to fight for him. I hope this helps: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Dunlendings
To me Saruman possessed the power of convincing people or orcs or anyone else to do what he wanted them to do. I think Gandalf supported this when he warned the group in the beginning of ROTK to not trust Saruman (or his words). Also, in Fangorn Aragorn warned Legolas and Gimli to be quick because the White Wizard will put a spell on them. At the time they though it was Saruman approaching. I take all this as a proof that Saruman was known for his sweet talking and being a master of negotiation... As about Sauron, my guess would be that he was frightful enough to force those men into service. I somehow don't imagine the Nazgul negotiating but the history behind all this is unknown to me.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Loresilme. I'm glad you liked the shots.
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