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You don't need to wonder

Elciryamo
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Jan 7, 3:59am


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I'll see if I can find the quote in his letters, but when they sent him the script for the animated LOTR he was quite concerned with the interpretation by the director/writer and his lack of understanding of why people wanted to see an LOTR film so badly. Considering his opinion towards technology, I don't think Tolkien would respond so favourably to the films.

I don't think people need to "drool" over them, any more than they should over ANY film. The Hobbit (or LOTR) don't deserve a pass because they are derived from Tolkien's work.

I have learned, from varied experience, that film adaptation from a book is a mixed bag. The language of film is such that, being a visual medium it requires far more investment of the creator, and less trust in the audience to understand what is being communicated. Many times filmmakers will state that what they meant to do and what is commonly understood are two different things. So, I take adaptations as the filmmaker intended, not just from the work that is being adapted. This, of course, is just my opinion, but being a fan of books like Starship Troopers, and watching the essentially parody film, is hard to swallow.

With the Hobbit, I am afraid that I do not have as must invested in the book. I like the Hobbit because it communicates a similar tone to the book, with a more child-like view rather than the darker, more dire tones of the LOTR trilogy. It also has to take place inside the world of Middle Earth, with direct ties to the events of LOTR but not always clear in the course of events.

I think a direct adaptation is possible, but not as accessible, since some parts in the Hobbit that rely so much on people's imaginations simply will not translate to film. Would I like a more direct adaptation? Maybe, but I just don't know if it would be better received by the audience.

I don't fault anyone for not liking any of these movies, but I think they are much better than they are given credit for.


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It seems like whenever someone says, "I didn't enjoy the film very much, I would have preferred a more faithful adaptation," there are people who will essentially respond with, "No, you're wrong." The most common reason they seem to give has something to do with the popularity of the movie.

It's like they can't stand the fact that someone else isn't drooling over said movie.

I wonder what the professor himself would think about all these films and whatnot.


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Peter Jackson and The Desolation of Progress Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:10am
    You obviously haven't watched the "making of" stuff for LOTR and The Hobbit AUJ... Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 5, 4:29am
        Peter green screen Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:34am
        Ditto MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 4:54am
            THANKS Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:59am
                what about waking up next to Thranduil?? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:03am
                    :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:07am
                        ahaha!! MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:11am
                            :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:13am
                                no problem just PM me and i will MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:16am
                                    <3 Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:20am
                    Waking up next to Thranduil... Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 12:50am
                        My cousin would love to wake up to Thranduil warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 6, 2:33am
                        nice horse on your avatar btw! MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 6, 3:32am
                            Thanks! Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 10:28am
    Could you clarify something please? DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Jan 5, 5:29am
        LOL MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:30am
        problem Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:34am
    Things change... tsmith675 Send a private message to tsmith675 Jan 5, 5:33am
        brown woman Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:39am
        Technology does not make work easier. warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 6, 3:37am
            Exactly. tsmith675 Send a private message to tsmith675 Jan 6, 5:35am
    I don't see how PJ's The Hobbit ruins the art-form of film hexxenpanda Send a private message to hexxenpanda Jan 5, 5:39am
        cinema Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:46am
            First of all, welcome Elciryamo Send a private message to Elciryamo Jan 5, 6:02am
                colombia Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:08am
            Well, just about anything is considered an art Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 5, 6:04am
                art Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:12am
            Not all films have to be artistic statements hexxenpanda Send a private message to hexxenpanda Jan 5, 6:40am
                That is a good comparison Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 5, 6:45am
                    issue Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:57am
                gollum Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:55am
                    That makes perfect sense demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 7:17am
                        THANKS Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 7:29am
                            VIVA TOLKIEN! demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 7:55am
                                galadriel Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:46pm
                                LOTR Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:47pm
    Welcome! demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 6:56am
        opinion Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:59am
        Honestly I don't care about Tolkien when it comes to these movies. GiantMushroomBear Send a private message to GiantMushroomBear Jan 5, 2:30pm
            If Jackson is going to call these movies The Hobbit... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 4:48pm
                Every time I see this idea stated. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:01pm
                    I said nothing about Jackson "hating" Tolkien... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:04pm
                        Neither did I. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:11pm
                            You didn't? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:19pm
                                As an an analogy for DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:28pm
                                    Likewise... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:37pm
                                        Not at all. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:51pm
                                            Yep, I have my expectations... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 6:00pm
                                                Well you seem to have now moved DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 6:08pm
                                                    Didn't say anything in my last post that I haven't been saying this entire conversation... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 6:37pm
                                                        Whenever a discussion entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jan 5, 6:53pm
                                                        Ya I don't get it.... aruman Send a private message to aruman Jan 7, 2:39am
                                                            You don't need to wonder Elciryamo Send a private message to Elciryamo Jan 7, 3:59am
                                                    pop Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:39pm
                                            freedom Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:37pm
                                        I never heard of Tolkien, The Hobbit or LOTR warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 5, 10:03pm
                                        art 2 Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:36pm
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                            art Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:29pm
                        Fully Agree with you sentiments// malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Jan 5, 5:13pm
                        Movie-makers have been doing "whatever" they want... Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 5, 5:28pm
                            Because this is a story I care about... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:41pm
                        cinema Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:25pm
                    conflicts Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:24pm
                this subject thing needs to go warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 5, 9:51pm
                nothing matters to jackson Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:23pm
                    Now that's hardly fair..... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 5, 11:31pm
            Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else? demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 11:07pm
        directors Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:21pm
    Don't really get the Galadriel comment - Hanzkaz Jan 5, 12:37pm
        Tauriel with red hair arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 5, 2:56pm
        When it comes to race ... Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Jan 5, 5:24pm
            Same here. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 5, 7:49pm
                HEY Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:44pm
                it's lonely at the top Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Jan 6, 5:17pm
            Yes, I believe it may be Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Jan 5, 11:51pm
    Sorry you didn't gain pleasure from the Hobbit films Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Jan 5, 1:43pm
        completely agree Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Jan 5, 5:18pm
            thanks Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:42pm
        movies Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:41pm
    Hello and welcome.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 5, 1:53pm
        forum Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:42pm
    I have my issues with the films as well... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 4:31pm
        :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:43pm
        Agreed... Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 1:05am
    I will initiate my opinion with a 'Welcome to TORN!' Tinuvielinthemiddle' StoneHex104 Send a private message to StoneHex104 Jan 5, 8:31pm
        :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:43pm
    I must respectfully disagree sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Jan 6, 3:07am
        Couldn't agree with ya more, sphdle1. // Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 6, 3:22am
        I agree also sphdle! Except that I am a Tolkien book lover and I still love these movies. Noria Send a private message to Noria Jan 6, 3:00pm
            Bomby stays away from these... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Jan 6, 4:49pm
                Awesome post Bomby! ;) // sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Jan 7, 3:43am

 
 
 

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