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Thranduil will not be there

Mithfânion
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Jan 10, 2:04pm


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I think we need to scale back what the White Council vs Dol Guldur face off will look like.
I think it will primarily be a magical duel. This makes sense in every aspect. There will not be many armies there, or hundreds of soldiers.
At best, there will be some smaller forces from Rivendell or Lothlorien. That'll be it, guaranteed.
This is not about ground troups, and remember that all that stuff is already in the BoFA. They will not have that happen here as well.
Sauron does not have a body as yet. He can only be fought with magical power.
Moreso, his armies will be gone, a few will remain at best. His help troups there will certainly be the Nazgul, as well as spiders and bats.
Opposing him will be Galadriel, Saruman, Radagast for certain, and possibly Gandalf and Elrond. On Elrond, we are not sure.
He did not go back for pik-ups in 2013, but that was not Dol Guldur material as far as we know. Gandalf's role is unclear now, will he be freed before the others come, and if yes, will he still have a role in the battle? If he is not freed before, will he not have a role at all and just be rescued by the White Council? As disappointing as that sounds, it does actually seem as if this is what it is leading up to.
At some point, the powers of the White Council will get the upper hand, and Sauron and the Nine will disperse. I do not expect there to be much military action, only a bit. The lion share of the confrontation will be magical.

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Sauron with Orcs vs. White Council: How Would You Go About It? Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Jan 4, 3:31pm
    Galadriel does destroy Dol Guldur in the books... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 4, 4:03pm
        Well kind of KingTurgon Send a private message to KingTurgon Jan 4, 4:14pm
            As I said "It happens later...." // dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 4, 4:33pm
    Mostly a group effort... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 4, 4:34pm
    My ideas: Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth Send a private message to Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth Jan 4, 4:56pm
        Yeah Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 4, 9:01pm
        Saruman MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 4, 9:19pm
            So? Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Jan 4, 9:20pm
                Gandalf in Dol Guldur ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jan 4, 9:29pm
            That really doesn't mean much... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 12:05am
    My scenario is closer to the book Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 4, 9:29pm
    Ok. Name Send a private message to Name Jan 4, 9:56pm
        I don't think Azog will be there. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 4, 10:03pm
            Actually would make sense MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 4, 10:12pm
            Hmmmm Name Send a private message to Name Jan 4, 10:16pm
                The only thing he seems to be surprised by DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 4, 10:23pm
                    OK, sound points. Name Send a private message to Name Jan 4, 10:33pm
                        You are worried about the 60? DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 4, 10:37pm
                            But I'm talking about how PJ explains it in the films. Name Send a private message to Name Jan 4, 10:39pm
                                I suspect that DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 4, 10:57pm
                        No MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 12:34am
                        He doesn't have to know that Sauron went to Mordor... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 12:56am
    Some thoughts HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Jan 5, 12:50am
        All the movies have indicated is that Galadriel will come to Gandalf's aid... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 1:24am
            Of course Saruman and Elrond will be there HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Jan 5, 1:44am
                Personally... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 1:55am
                    Honestly... HiddenSpring Send a private message to HiddenSpring Jan 5, 2:08am
                        Maybe... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 2:48am
                    Ideally, Saruman shows up last and turns the tide. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 5, 6:47am
                        This sounds wonderful AO Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jan 5, 6:00pm
                        I like it, except one small detail Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth Send a private message to Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth Jan 6, 7:24pm
                    Agreed completely Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 5, 7:02am
    Ok, so BornOutOfTheWest Send a private message to BornOutOfTheWest Jan 5, 12:10pm
    How I am "hoping" it plays out.... QueenCirce Send a private message to QueenCirce Jan 6, 4:41am
        Thranduil will not be there Mithfânion Send a private message to Mithfânion Jan 10, 2:04pm

 
 
 

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