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"A Conspiracy Unmasked" or Making sense of the Fellowship of the Ring CR

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A guide on what tracks contain film edits/tracking:

Disc One


Prologue: One Ring To Rule Them All

There is a section of music microedited of the cue around 2:00, it the microedited section can be found in the scene selection menu, there are sections of this cue that have the choir mixed out.

The Shire

This is the cue for the EE scene, it seems to be complete and free of film edits, but I could be wrong.

Bag End

This is the EE version of the scene of Frodo under the tree, the theatrical version is unreleased, though a bit of it can be ripped from the EE trailer on the TE special features.

Very Old Friends

Seems to be complete, with no film edits or microedits.

Flaming Red Hair

This is the film version, the EE scene selections have an alternate opening..

Farewell Dear Bilbo

Complete and unedited?

Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe!

The first half is complete until 4:00, though the EE special features have a clean ending without the voiceover.

The second half however, has a tracked statement of the History of the Ring, which is taken from (most likely) Parth Galen, the original composition can be heard in the music featurette on the EE DVD and the in the OST track "The Shadow of the Past", the choir for the Nine leaving Minas Morgul is mixed low in the CR.

A Conspiracy Unmasked

This cue is what inspired me to write this.

The first portion is complete (minus 1 second of a clean opening.), however a small section at 0:48 was tracked over/replaced with brass notes, the original section can be heard in the Middle-Earth atlas on the EE features, during the transition to Rivendell.

One of the most bizarre editing decisions on the FOTR CR is here, during Frodo's talk with Gandalf about the One Ring, low brass play the Threat of Mordor, however this was lopped off of the CR, the reason for this is because it does not flow naturally in to the History of the Ring theme, because the History theme statement is also tracked from Parth Galen! the original piece would have featured the Footsteps of Doom Endcap, and a bit of incidental music that reminds of the Original version of the Siege of Gondor (presented on the Rarities disc), this original composition can be heard in the EE documentary on the Costumes, during the section on Saruman's costumes.

Three Is Company

Complete? The LOTR symphony version has singing instead of humming.

The Passing of the Elves

This cue is by Plan 9 and seems to be complete

Saruman The White

1:00 has low male choir in the film, but the CR has this mixed to being inaudible, at 3:09 choir is dialed out, the intended choir can be found on the OST track "The Treason of Isengard"

A Shortcut To Mushrooms

A portion at 1:44 was microedited down, the OST has the unmicroedited portion, at 1:59 there is a bar microedited out, the misssing bar can be found in the TTT Video Game, the file 02G2GAL1 has this missing bar.

There is still an unreleased alternate to this cue, which was a more subdued take, parts of it can be found in the Previz of Gandalf riding to Isengard. and in the Middle-earth atlas as a transition from Weathertop to The Trollshaws, the missing bar mentioned above could theoretically be part of this early version.

Strider

0:19-0:34 is tracked from later in the cue, originally the scene of the Hobbits entering the Prancing Pony was unscored.

The Nazgul

The subdued Nazgul theme at 1:18 has strings dialed out, they are included on the OST track "At The Sing of the Prancing Pony" along with an unplaced bit of the Revelation of the Ringwraiths.

1:44 to 2:14 is tracked from Saruman The White, the actual composition can be found on the Rarities track "To Rivendell"

The revised ending (replacing the Isengard material heard in the aforementioned Rarities track) at 5:09 retains the film edit, the "full" recording can be found in the TE DVD menus

End of Disc One

Disc Two

Weathertop

The whole track is a mess, the CR track has muted brass mixed out, and choir is removed at 1:22.

The Caverns of Isengard

0:44 has music tracked from earlier in the track, the choir is mixed low at 1:57 on the CR (the OST can be used for this portion)

The music at 3:57 could be looped to fit the new EE footage, not sure though, the waveforms does not provide any clues.

Give Up The Halfling

Complete, the OST and Rarities have alternates.

Orthanc

Seems complete..

Rivendell

Complete, OST contains an alternate.

The Sword That Was Broken

Complete?

The Council of Elrond Assembles

Aniron is microedited, a small section could be looped..

The Great Eye

1:29 sounds like it could be tracked, slowed down, and pitch shifted.. 4:32 is a loop, The OST has an alternate for 4:39.

Gilraen's Memorial

Seems complete, the Fellowship leaving Rivendell has the choir mixed low.

The Pass of Caradhras

4:53 to 4:57 is a loop made to fit the EE footage.

The Doors of Durin

Complete, contains the EE opening, the TE version is partially available via the TTT Video Game, the rest is in the EE documentaries.

Moria

Complete, CR includes the EE inserts, the OST has the theatrical "edit".

The symphony version has extra instruments, extra singing, and a brassier ending.

Gollum

Complete?

Balin's Tomb

There are microedits around 4:43, 4:47, and 5:10, these can be undone using the TTT Video Game files.

The Fan Club Credits have a clean opening for 7:34 of the track.

The music after the Fellowship theme statement is the film edit, the OST track the full composition.

End of Disc Two

Disc Three

Khazad-Dum


There are three microedits:

One at 2:01

The second at 3:33

The third at 4:07

These can be undone using the OST and TTT Game Files.

Caras Galadhon

Seems to be complete..

The Mirror of Galadriel

I have a feeling that the music at 1:04 was condensed to start at a later point in the footage.

I have no idea if the music for Galadriel's ring was a edit, or a new recording, the OST version of this is shorter though...

The Fighting Uruk-Hai

The opening of the cue was edited out, and can be found on the Rarities.

The Symphony version has a few extra seconds of music after the Ring Theme statement.

Parth Galen

the music at 3:25 has the choir mixed out.

The seduction theme has an extra choir section that was mixed out at 4:39.

The music for Boromir's death is the EE version, the TE version can be found on the OST and in the game files.

The Departure of Boromir

The first few seconds of the cue are removed, the missing music can be found on the OST.

The music for Aragorn's fight with Lurtz is the film edit, the Game files has the full composition (with some sections looped for Game purposes)

The Road Goes Ever On.. Part 1

Complete. The Fan Club credits has an alternate, the OST has the unedited composition though without the final coda.

May It Be

Might be complete, might be microedited, I have no idea.

The Road Goes Ever On.. Part 2

The film edit, the OST has the full composition

Unsolved Mysteries

There is an as of yet unidentified bit of music in the menus of the Theatrical DVD, it features the Descending Third

https://docs.google.com/...Q0FqTXp1bGYtUEU/edit

Where does the Nazgul theme at 2:25 of "At The Sign of the Prancing Pony" go?

What does the original version of A Shortcut to Mushrooms sound like?

Is the bit of the Threat of Mordor for Gimli trying to destroy the One Ring in The Great Eye tracked?

How much choral material are we missing?

The End?

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