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Girdle of Melian
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Dec 5 2013, 1:35pm


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"Galadriel, the only woman of the Noldor to stand that day tall and valiant among the contending princes, was eager to be gone. No oath’s she swore, but the words of Fëanor concerning Middle-earth had kindled in her heart, for she yearned to see the wide, unguarded lands and to rule there a realm at her own will."

"Nevertheless, it was not until the disaster in Moria, when by means is beyond the foresight of Galadriel Sauron's power actually crossed the Anduin and Lórien was in great peril, its king lost, its people fleeing and likely to leave it deserted to likely occupied by Orcs, that Galadriel and Celeborn took up their permanent abode in Lórien, and its government. But they took no title of King or Queen, and were the guardians that in the event brought it unviolated through the War of the Ring."

"Galadriel was strong of body, mind and will and she grew taller than most of any Noldor. Galadriel was accountet beuatyful, her hair was rich and golden and radiant like it was touched by the light of the two Trees. Galadriel was the greatest of the Noldor except for Fëanor but she was wiser than he and her wisdom increased within the long years. Galadriel was proud, strong and self-willed."

"A queen she was of the woodland Elves, the wife of Celeborn of Doriath, yet she herself was of the Noldor and remember the Day before days in Valinor, and she was the mightiest and fairest of all the Elves that remained in Middle-earth."
""These two kinsfolk (Feanor and Galadriel), the greatest of the Eldar in Valinor*, were unfriends for ever." "Who together with the greatest of all the Eldar, Luthien Tinuviel, daughter of Elu Thingol, are the chief matter of the legends and histories of the Elves."
It is true that Tolkien never mentions specifically that Galadriel took up sword, but certainly he used the words greatest, mightiest, taller than most of any Noldor, power that dwelt there was far too powerful unless Sauron came there himself. However, the problem I have with this is people just automatically assumes that this just means her power is mere sorcery at best because she gave fellowship gifts, did mind reading, destroyed Dol Guldur, etc. Tolkien also made it a point that she was an athlete - why would he even bother to say that (just to show that Galadriel can run fast?). It's really quite easy to read in between the lines, although I could see how other people will misinterpret this, or could just be just a bit sexist enough that the same words such as greatest, mightiest, etc. can only apply to her in terms of magic and not of physical skill (unlike Feanor). Obviously, she led people, she established Lorien with Celeborn and became the guardian, and they were obviously confident enough of her skills both militarily in terms of knowledge and skill to trust both of them to be the guardian. Now whether or not Nenya played a really important part in the defense of Lorien, is more open to debate I think.


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Were there any restrictions on Galadriel as an Elf becoming as powerful as a Maiar? Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Nov 27 2013, 8:12am
    About Gandalf... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Nov 27 2013, 7:03pm
        Regarding this... Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Dec 1 2013, 12:14pm
            the most powerful being in middle earth Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Dec 1 2013, 12:53pm
            Confronting the Balrog is not the same as confronting Sauron. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 1 2013, 6:48pm
                Yes... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Dec 1 2013, 7:46pm
                To Clarify Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Dec 1 2013, 11:50pm
                    yes, that is certainly a ..... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Dec 2 2013, 1:04am
                        GOM Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Dec 2 2013, 1:57pm
                            The trouble I'm having with this discussion... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 2 2013, 8:52pm
                                Okay, Forget the Balrog... Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Dec 3 2013, 11:46pm
                                    What does "greatness" mean? Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 4 2013, 12:35am
                                        well...to be fair... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Dec 4 2013, 4:33am
                                        the kinslaying Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 4 2013, 12:37pm
                                            I don't much care for the "rehabilitated" Galadriel. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 4 2013, 6:27pm
                                                I agree... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 4 2013, 11:07pm
                                                    Quotes From Tolkien... Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Dec 5 2013, 1:35pm
                        minor point on height Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Dec 4 2013, 1:07pm
    I think it is a question of "kind." Ethel Duath Send a private message to Ethel Duath Nov 28 2013, 6:17pm
    There are no power tables in Middle Earth dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 28 2013, 6:45pm

 
 
 

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