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That terrific interview with Richard Armitage on the 'front page'
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Altaira
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Nov 26 2013, 4:38am

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pssst... just for the record, there's already a thread on this just below this one [In reply to] Can't Post

As the board moves faster and faster in the next few weeks, let's all remember to scan page one of the board before starting a new thread and if there's already a thread on the topic you want to discuss, please post in that thread.

Normally we'd lock duplicate threads, but since we didn't notice until now, and this one has so many replies, we'll let it proceed. Smile


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Glorfindela
Valinor


Nov 26 2013, 12:57pm

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Thank you very much [In reply to] Can't Post

In fact, I posted this message straight after I read the interview on the front page and didn't realise until later that there was already a general thread about the interview.

Sometimes, when one has very little time, there isn't the opportunity to look through other posts! Will try to bear your message in mind, though. (My post does also refer to a specific point in the interview, rather than the interview in general.) Wink


Glorfindela
Valinor


Nov 26 2013, 1:04pm

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Another thing that occurred to me [In reply to] Can't Post

It's that a scene like that described by RA could have served as a counterpoint to the tomfoolery with the other Dwarves (perhaps my least favourite in the EE).

On the other hand, it may have been too early to show such a display of trust between Thorin and Bilbo. Ideally, such a scene might be better towards the beginning of DoS – and it would be wonderful if it could be shown as a flashback, fireflies included, inside the Dwarf caves (reminiscent of the Glittering Caves mentioned in the LotR books but never shown in the films).


(This post was edited by Glorfindela on Nov 26 2013, 1:06pm)


TheBeerBaron
Rivendell


Nov 26 2013, 1:13pm

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I could see that happening [In reply to] Can't Post

I..e that they flashback to this scene, and Thorin kind of says "remember what I told you back in Rivendell", or Bilbo uses it to try to kind of counter Thorin's madness by saying kind of "Thorin, this isn't who you are. Remember when you told me...".


Arannir
Valinor


Nov 26 2013, 1:34pm

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I think it is good the scene is out. [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, it does sound beautiful at first and fitting.

But imho it completely screwes with the Thorin/Bilbo relationship, which reaches its low in AUJ immediately after Rivendell. Both when Bilbo looks back at the last homely house and during the Stone Giant sequence.

That intimate scene would have been out of character.

Maybe there will be a point for a similar scene in the next two movies.


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Avandel
Valinor

Nov 26 2013, 1:50pm

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re recognition IMO fortunately fans have spoken [In reply to] Can't Post

Completely agree that RA and MF well deserve some of the more "formal" industry awards. But to me the Oscars is particular seem to be very political - I was pretty surprised a while back when I discovered actual "campaign ads" as tho the actors and actresses were running for office or something.

But if I could say anything to RA it'd be to offer enormous respect, in that in earlier interviews he talks about the fear kicking in re the part, and certainly he was well aware of the grumblers and the doubters. And talks about "just putting your head down and working like you've never worked before."

And IMO he's DONE IT. His Thorin is complex and magnificent and interviewers comment on the popularity of the character - also remember during the Batman/Ben Affleck stuff articles talking about how impressed WB was with RA - so the industry likes him too. Think RA has done something extraordinary with Thorin - and do believe as filming went on PJ & co. realized more and more, through the camera and in working with RA, how much there was to work with and has made use of it, happily (I'd say THANK YOU to PJ too.)

Re MF - I can't watch Bilbo without thinking how scarily good MF is - he's just SO perfect as Bilbo. If I were an actress I'd study his performance just to watch, and learn. Am sure someone, someday, will re-make the Hobbit, but wouldn't want to be the one following in RA's or MF's shoes.


Glorfindela
Valinor


Nov 26 2013, 5:06pm

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100 per cent agree, Avandel. [In reply to] Can't Post

As usual, your words go straight to the point…


Brethil
Half-elven


Nov 26 2013, 6:17pm

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(Thank you for indulging us, dear Altaira...) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Xanaseb
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Nov 27 2013, 8:56pm

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ah, interesting about the idea of it being transplanted! Let's hope so :D // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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