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The "Bolg" of Azanulbizar might just be a fluke...

peterLF
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Nov 15 2013, 2:11am


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The "Bolg" of Azanulbizar might just be a fluke... [In reply to] Can't Post

It might just be a reused skin for an unimportant orc - however unfortunate the cameo seems to be if this Bolg concept is indeed used.

That toy packaging of the Bolg/Gandalf set that's circulating reveals that Bolg is (or was at one time in the production at least) the torturer and keeper of the Dol Goldur dungeons, his armor being "embellished with the blood and bones of his victims".
The blood explains the red hair, and the bones are clearly visible, but while the orc in the Azanulbizar battle have the bones and the general Bolg armor - there is no red hair... He is also not wearing any metal on his head, and facially only remotely resembles Bolg (to me at least). Which means he either haven't yet developed into his "current" self - or it's just simply not the same guy.

According to this link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7932722/Behind-the-scenes-of-The-Hobbit) the ["hero"?] orc faces are put on using CGI and not prosthetics - so it would be very easy to just replace the skin on the face if the Bolg character design wasn't going to be needed but they still thought the armor was "kewl as fukk" (which it is).

Also, the photo released of Bolg is taken at Dol Goldur, and considering the trailers that came out before AUJ premiered it seems probable that certain scenes were pushed to DoS - which they obviously can't talk about in the AUJ appendices.

Also in the appendices PJ is heard talking about "putting Gandalf in that sort of position where he's trapped which we haven't seen before" [hugely paraphrased] - which would seem like it isn't something to come directly out of the book. And I am thinking it is a Dol Guldur scene that is being discussed. Bolg having a hand in keeping Gandalf trapped in DG would seem a bit more plausible that most other scenarios, since it probably won't be the Necromancer doing it directly. You kinda need "a bigger than usual"-type bad guy there - and a guy who physical, and not just a phantom.

All in all, I'm leaning towards that the orc Dwalin is fighting is just some unimportant orc... But considering Thrain's storyline, we might pay a revisit to the Battle of Moria-flashback, so anything is up for grabs.


PS: forgive me if I'm reposting too much - I haven't followed these forums too long B|

Subject User Time
Conan Stevens... MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 3:00am
    Since when flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Nov 10 2013, 3:21am
        But why was the Azog actor.. MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 3:29am
            It was not the same actor MEIGWIT Send a private message to MEIGWIT Nov 10 2013, 1:46pm
        They might not have told him about Bolg going CGI Carne Send a private message to Carne Nov 10 2013, 11:14am
            According to Mr. Stevens' Game of Thrones Wiki entry... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 2:19pm
                That's not what Conan says though... DjU Send a private message to DjU Nov 10 2013, 2:37pm
                    GoT wiki... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 2:42pm
                        Here's the post DjU Send a private message to DjU Nov 10 2013, 2:51pm
                            Thanks :) Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 3:02pm
                                This. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Nov 10 2013, 9:31pm
    That is Lawrence Makoare DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Nov 10 2013, 3:30am
        In the vlog.. MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 3:32am
    Conan Stevens... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 3:32am
        So he hasn't been replaced by cgi? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 3:35am
            No one here knows anything for certain... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 2:53pm
                well deskp Send a private message to deskp Nov 10 2013, 2:58pm
                    Conan's listed in the imdb credits... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 3:06pm
                        doesent matter deskp Send a private message to deskp Nov 10 2013, 3:07pm
                            So which credits are you referring to then? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 3:08pm
                                wb deskp Send a private message to deskp Nov 10 2013, 3:09pm
                                    I guess we shall see next month... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 3:11pm
                VLOG Mithfânion Send a private message to Mithfânion Nov 10 2013, 7:47pm
                    If Bolg has indeed been redesigned... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 8:25pm
                        It's not a continuity error at all, if Bolg is redesigned. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Nov 10 2013, 8:30pm
                            True... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 8:32pm
                                Maybe prosthetic Blog looked awfully fake on high definition elanor_thefair Send a private message to elanor_thefair Nov 10 2013, 9:30pm
                    well deskp Send a private message to deskp Nov 10 2013, 8:25pm
                    Hmmm... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 8:47pm
                        Indeed. Nagini6 Send a private message to Nagini6 Nov 10 2013, 9:05pm
                            I doubt... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 9:22pm
                                Perhaps.. Nagini6 Send a private message to Nagini6 Nov 10 2013, 9:25pm
                                    One can only hope... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 9:32pm
                                        well Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Nov 10 2013, 9:44pm
        Not so sure we can rest easy... pacochoa Send a private message to pacochoa Nov 10 2013, 4:57am
            Were you being sarcastic? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:12am
                It happens. Frodo Lives Send a private message to Frodo Lives Nov 10 2013, 5:18am
                Alex North's Score for 2001: A Space Odyssey bungobaggins Nov 10 2013, 5:22am
                    And don't forget PJ scrapped Howard Shore's score MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:32am
            Unfortunately... Frodo Lives Send a private message to Frodo Lives Nov 10 2013, 5:14am
                I think the cosmetic Azog was not impressive MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:37am
                I understand that much but... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 5:42am
                    Ok but.. MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:47am
                        Maybe.. Blkcpt Send a private message to Blkcpt Nov 10 2013, 5:53am
                        It's all a bit confusing... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 5:56am
                            Lawrence makoare is listed on imdb for DOS MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 6:31am
                                Actually, he is. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 10 2013, 6:52am
                                    ..... Mithfânion Send a private message to Mithfânion Nov 10 2013, 2:11pm
                                        I'm disappointed that they went this route... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 2:39pm
                                            cgi orcs Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Nov 10 2013, 9:56pm
                                                I don't mind... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 10:20pm
                                                    I'm pretty sure if middle earth dwarves were real... ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 10:32pm
                                                        orcs Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Nov 10 2013, 11:36pm
                                                Yes and no MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 11:48pm
                                                    orcs and goblins Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Nov 10 2013, 11:57pm
                                                        I don't get the hate for Azog MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 11 2013, 12:31am
                                                            azog Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Nov 11 2013, 12:46am
                                                            All I can tell you... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 11 2013, 3:47pm
                                                            The more Orcs the better! Orc Berserker Send a private message to Orc Berserker Nov 11 2013, 6:49pm
                                                                Expectations Mithfânion Send a private message to Mithfânion Nov 11 2013, 7:45pm
                                                                    BO5A Orc Berserker Send a private message to Orc Berserker Nov 11 2013, 8:19pm
                        All the live actors have CGI counterparts. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Nov 10 2013, 6:44am
    Maybe tarasaurus Send a private message to tarasaurus Nov 10 2013, 6:13am
        That was for pre-viz Joe20 Send a private message to Joe20 Nov 10 2013, 6:19am
        I don't think so MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 6:37am
            He is. Being killed by Dwalin at Azanulbizar. And from the looks of it, that Bolg, unlike Azog AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 10 2013, 6:47am
                Who was killed by Dwalin? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 7:02am
                    Floored by the Azog 'denizen of middle earth' featurette Metal Slug Send a private message to Metal Slug Nov 10 2013, 8:09am
                        Hmmm MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 8:35am
                        It became associated Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Nov 10 2013, 8:58am
                        Except that they have also talked about..... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Nov 10 2013, 9:28am
                            Well then, there you have it Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Nov 10 2013, 9:55am
                    Here's a .gif tarasaurus Send a private message to tarasaurus Nov 10 2013, 4:48pm
                        That's a EE scene? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:15pm
                            No. Nagini6 Send a private message to Nagini6 Nov 10 2013, 6:08pm
                            No it's the theatrical tarasaurus Send a private message to tarasaurus Nov 10 2013, 6:29pm
                The "Bolg" of Azanulbizar might just be a fluke... peterLF Send a private message to peterLF Nov 15 2013, 2:11am
    Last shot picture - Is it Conan? MTT Gandalf Send a private message to MTT Gandalf Nov 10 2013, 11:33am
        no deskp Send a private message to deskp Nov 10 2013, 11:57am
    This Game of Thrones business.... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Nov 10 2013, 12:04pm
        I'm sure there were! Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Nov 10 2013, 12:26pm
            And than replaced by cgi.. MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 1:18pm
            I'd have stayed on GoT if I were him LordotRings93 Send a private message to LordotRings93 Nov 10 2013, 1:31pm
                I agree... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 10 2013, 3:24pm
                    Yup, it's a shame hbo can't get him back MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 5:17pm
    "Yazneg'd" TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Nov 10 2013, 9:45pm
        This is just a little nuts MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Nov 10 2013, 9:54pm
        Yazneg wasn't CGI, right? elanor_thefair Send a private message to elanor_thefair Nov 10 2013, 10:00pm
            If he was CGI, I'm shocked.. ecthelionsbeard Send a private message to ecthelionsbeard Nov 10 2013, 10:09pm
            orcs Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Nov 10 2013, 10:25pm
                ... vinsanity Send a private message to vinsanity Nov 10 2013, 11:12pm
    I think we will see Conan in TABA, though whether they will call his role 'Bolg'... sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Nov 10 2013, 11:09pm
        Ultimately DjU Send a private message to DjU Nov 10 2013, 11:28pm
    All this is mere speculation... tsmith675 Send a private message to tsmith675 Nov 11 2013, 1:10am
        Yeah, I agree... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 11 2013, 3:32pm

 
 
 

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