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The most unflattering review of the Extended Edition of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey you will read today (and why it's rubbish)
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Nov 10 2013, 8:24am

Post #26 of 32 (175 views)
...not to mention that [In reply to] Can't Post

"the dawn of a cinematic train wreck" is a mixed metaphor.


Nov 10 2013, 9:45am

Post #27 of 32 (149 views)
Same old... [In reply to] Can't Post

And why criticize the 48 fps issue, whereas the EE actually does not feature it?

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Nov 10 2013, 9:59am

Post #28 of 32 (135 views)
Good for you Bomby!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Some of these guys really need a reality check. Glad you were able to do so with this particular one!Smile

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Nov 10 2013, 11:34am

Post #29 of 32 (152 views)
Clearly only a flattering review will do. [In reply to] Can't Post

 - and God knows, there must be plenty of those!

(This post was edited by geordie on Nov 10 2013, 11:36am)

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Nov 10 2013, 11:47am

Post #30 of 32 (140 views)
Unflattering ones are fine as long as they justify themselves. [In reply to] Can't Post

I guess for my next trick I ought to pull apart a paean of praise?

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Nov 10 2013, 4:39pm

Post #31 of 32 (76 views)
Well I have to say [In reply to] Can't Post

People do watch train wrecks...but still. I don't think people are watching this film because it's a train wreck. It didn't make the money it made because people thought it was terrible. There were some who did, this author apparently one of them. That's fine. For him maybe it's a train wreck. Still, better to support your overall conclusions but comparing actual facts, like Demosthenes pointed out, than engaging in sheer hyberbole.

It may have had it's shortcomings for some. But a train wreck? Hardly.

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Nov 10 2013, 5:26pm

Post #32 of 32 (88 views)
Need to be fair to be relevant IMO [In reply to] Can't Post

My favorite critics work hard and you can tell by the writing - no blanket statements or blatantly insulting language, don't use phrases like "train wreck". By the time you are done reading a
WELL WRITTEN critique you have a good picture of the possible pros and cons of the film, an more importantly IMO, do the "negatives" bother you and if so how much? And are they really
negatives for you at all?

For instance "Kingdom of Heaven" got a fair share of hammering - but I love this film, the performances, and what I think is an elegant treatment. The best critical reviews touched on the
beauty of the film, the best of the performances, the great siege scene, and gave Orlando Bloom his props while acknowledging he's not Russell Crowe. If I'd listened to SOME critics
I never would have watched the film at all.

Sounds to me as though this "critic" (blogger, really) threw any attempt at real analysis out of the window before he even started = fail. Fortunately as DOS approaches, with publicity
and a good store display for AUJ, figure 1) 99% of shoppers won't have read ANY disk reviews anyway; and 2) a fair number of shoppers will grab a copy of AUJ on their way out
to go with their loaded carts of bedding, plastic storage bins, clothes, groceries, and decorations (my local Target sticks all the new releases on displays up front, so you can get
a DVD along with your candy and Chapstick.- impossible to miss.)

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