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The Book First or The Movie First?

OldBeard
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Oct 31 2013, 4:12pm

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Hello everyone. This is my first post here on TORn and I wanted to make it about a topic that I just wrote about on my Hobbit news blog.

The question that I posed there is this: did you choose to read the book before watching the Hobbit films or did you choose to watch the Hobbit films before reading the book.

My own personal choice was to watch the films before reading the book (the reasons for which I detailed on my blog).

I want to ask that question here too. What did you TORn members choose to do?


MomoftheShire
Rivendell

Oct 31 2013, 4:22pm

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Read the book. I highly recommend it! Movie IS different, but much more enjoyable with the book experience before, not after!


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Oct 31 2013, 4:41pm

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If you're trying to drag a friend or family member into the fandom, showing them the movies first is often a good way of getting them hooked, especially if they don't read much. However, encouraging them to also read the books is definitely a good idea.

On the other hand, if they're already amenable to the idea of The Hobbit and LOTR, and if they're not averse to reading, I would suggest reading the books first. It might take them awhile, but then you have a better appreciation for it when you see your favorite awesome moments on screen. Smile

As for me, I read all the books before I got my hands on the movies, so... there was never a real choice for me. Wink

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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Oct 31 2013, 5:41pm

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I read "The Hobbit" first in 1969.

I have a friend who waited until she had seen all three LotR movies before reading the books. But she got into LotR fanfiction in the meantime, which must have given her a very skewed vision of the characters (it was very...strange..fanfiction.)

In general I prefer books to movies, because my mind sees the story in its own way, and it doesn't depend on the particular vision of the movie. But I do like seeing movies too. The only time I liked a movie better than the book it was based on was "The Princess Bride".


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FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
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Oct 31 2013, 6:11pm

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so I already knew what was going to happen.

It was quite amusing though because a few years ago I was saying to my sister, "Peter should make a Hobbit film," and a year later what happened? It was confirmed that he was going to make one - no, not one, two films.
And then it later changed to three and I was all "What!? How are the scenes so long that he has to make three!?"
I think I understand now. Wink

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entmaiden
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Oct 31 2013, 6:20pm

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so I didn't have many options. I'm a proud book-firster, and while I love the movies, the books will always be my first love.


RosieLass
Valinor


Oct 31 2013, 7:03pm

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Before any of the films were made.

But in general, if I know that a movie is an adaptation of a book, I like to read the book first.

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Rembrethil
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Oct 31 2013, 7:10pm

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I read the book first, in my first dose of Tolkien craze. After discovering that there was more beyond PJ's film adaptation, I delved into the first level of reading: The LotR and The Hobbit. That stage being long past now, I would have to say that I do not regret the occurrence. My LotR experience was/is? a bit coloured by PJ, and I cannot get a few actor's own interpretations out of my head.

With the Hobbit I have a base reference to see what is changed in the adaptation process, and I find it highly enjoyable to see how many transformations it takes to get it to the screen. I might not care completely for the end product, but the process fascinates me!!

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Meneldor
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Oct 31 2013, 7:51pm

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was the one part of the book I really wished had made it to the big screen in PB. Oh, and Buttercup's parents; they killed me!

As for LotR, I read the books about 20 years before the movies.


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OldBeard
The Shire

Oct 31 2013, 7:51pm

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It seems I may have to reconsider my decision to not read The Hobbit before DoS based on these responses. Smile Although I may not, we'll see.


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Ethel Duath
Valinor


Oct 31 2013, 9:09pm

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Me neither! ('68 try and fail; '69 right through, and many times since!) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Otaku-sempai
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Oct 31 2013, 9:17pm

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I was born in 1960. When I first read The Hobbit there was no movie, Ralph Bakshi's animated adaptation of the first half of The Lord of the Rings was still a few years away, and the animated made-for-television adaptation of The Hobbit didn't exist yet either.

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FantasyFan
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Nov 1 2013, 1:33pm

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I read them in the 70s as part of an ongoing decades-long general reading binge. I have read thousands of books, but very few (OK, none) have stuck with me in the same way as Tolkien's books. IMHO, the movies have been/are fun, but nothing matches the books for depth, insight, characters, emotions and majesty.


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Kelvarhin
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Nov 2 2013, 12:49pm

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I first read LOTR in 1975 and like you I'm a proud book-firster. The movies are a lovely bonus, but the books will always hold first place Heart

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Nov 2 2013, 2:03pm

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No choice, as I'd first read The Hobbit in '66 or '67... [In reply to] Can't Post

...when I was in 7th grade. Smile

But I think that you might enjoy seeing the movie first, THEN reading the book for the comparison. And we'd be interested in reading your reaction!

And welcome to TORn, OldBeard!


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Asclepias
Rivendell

Nov 3 2013, 2:21am

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My dad read them to my sister and me around 1990, though as some of you earlier sibs may recall, Dad also read them to me when I was in the ICU, so I'd heard them before. Fellowship is my favorite of the movies, but they just went downhill after that.


Magpie
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Nov 3 2013, 3:31am

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I reread The Hobbit in the mid 2000s ... sometime amongst the LOTR movies coming out.


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bauglir
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Nov 3 2013, 5:28pm

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The Fellowship movie came out the month I turned 8, and I had never heard of it before. My first exposure to it was via a preview when I was seeing a movie with my friends and their mom, who is an avid fan of fantasy novels. Needless to say she was therefore a big fan of Tolkien. My friends were only 8 and 10 at the time, but they still knew what it was (they might have read it, or had it read to them, I don't remember?). I felt a bit left out, since no one in my family was much into fantasy.

I was able to get my dad to take me to see Fellowship, and it was love at first sight. Right after seeing it I started to read LotR. Rembrethil, I know what you mean about some parts of PJ's movies being etched into your head. I really wish I had been able to read some of it first!

I read the other books before their respective movies came out, but as could only be expected, I wasn't really able to fully grasp them at that age. This has always been kind of a let-down for me, because I really hadn't been given the chance to have Tolkien's world in my mind in its truest form before being so influenced by the movies.

That being said, I made sure to reread The Hobbit before the movies came out, and am very, very glad I did!

On a side note, I always kind of felt like I didn't have the opportunity to be a "higher-level" Tolkienite, so to put it, because I didn't know what the books were before PJ's movies came out. Oh well--I am quite immersed and well-versed in his world now!!


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Nov 3 2013, 6:19pm

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Ethel Duath
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Nov 3 2013, 7:40pm

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Nov 4 2013, 10:31am

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I'm so glad you found your way to TORn :D This is the greatest place EVER!

The book chose me first! I've been reading LotR since 1971, and started reading the Hobbit very shortly after that... so I waited a LONG LONG time for these stories to be told on screen as they were meant to be :)



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Nov 4 2013, 11:13am

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Only the books where around when I became interested. I wish someone had made the movies back then, but they would not of been anything as outstanding as what Peter Jackson has created and brought to our screens. The timing for the movies is just right. I think it is good that people can have both now, and I have enjoyed that luxury with Harry Potter, able to read the books and see the films. With HP I saw the first movie then read the books, then saw the rest of the movies as they came out. Smile

 
 

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