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Expectations change sometimes

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Oct 30 2013, 1:05am


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At first I didn't think AUJ would break $1 billion - until I saw the other records it broke on opening night and the pace it was making over the holiday.
I didn't think it would win awards - but it did. Comedy doesn't draw the same money and acclaim as violence and drama these days (although in my opinion we could use a great deal more of the former and a great deal less of the latter). Fumbling reluctant anti-heroes mumbling about their toast and elderly wanderers most noted for their excellent fireworks don't get the same attention from people as epic burly godlike comic book action heroes. A bunch of bearded guys on a long camping adventure isn't as exciting to most people as royals making heads roll in dark corners of shadowing castles. So I was surprised, to be honest, when AUJ hit as hard as it did at the box office and with the general audience. Maybe there is something about a little laughter and comaraderie that people have a spot for after all in the midst of everything else. I actually think that for many people, it supplied a bit of needed mirth and this could account for some of the repeated viewings at the theater. I may have misread the audience in that respect originally.

So, seeing the reaction to missing Legolas (and Tauriel btw) in AUJ, the stronger response to AUJ than what I expected (in the face of extreme panning from top critics), the appeal that the dragon had in AUJ (which becomes a greater feature now in DOS), the reactions to the elves from spoiled material, the fandom that has developed since LOTR for Sauron and his minions (which will feature stronger in DOS), the emergence of "hot dwarves" as a "thing", and bearing in mind the general fandom towards brutal political mayhem and soap-opera-esque drama stunts (so much opportunity for both growing and growing with each second of screen time on this story) - I can only guess that DOS will do better than AUJ (a guess I have always made from well before the movies ever came out) which was between 1-1.1 billion - which leads logically to 1.2 billion + (of course maybe I am missing something again?). Maybe 1.1 billion + is a more conservative guess but ... I don't think that accounts for all the factors that I listed above - not even close.

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By the numbers, because......well, because we can. Misty Mountain Hop Send a private message to Misty Mountain Hop Oct 28 2013, 6:16pm
    My guess Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 6:24pm
    After AUJ... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 28 2013, 6:31pm
        Agreed, AUJ +/- $100m Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 28 2013, 7:37pm
            But Annatar598 Send a private message to Annatar598 Oct 28 2013, 7:57pm
                That's a great point about age. Misty Mountain Hop Send a private message to Misty Mountain Hop Oct 28 2013, 8:03pm
                Cumberbatch is overrated Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 28 2013, 8:14pm
                    I hope you do not... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 28 2013, 8:54pm
                    Quite the contrary Annatar598 Send a private message to Annatar598 Oct 28 2013, 9:44pm
                        Give me one blockbuster close to release that doesn't top the amazon list... Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 28 2013, 10:03pm
                        Danger Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 28 2013, 10:06pm
                            I think we have to reign in just how many Dragons, especially of the talking variety, we have seen. Falkor, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 29 2013, 4:34am
                                Oh no, I do agree. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 29 2013, 11:01am
                                    The Game of Throne Dragons (and their lovely "mother") are gorgeous. lol AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 29 2013, 8:10pm
            Yup. Olorin2607 Send a private message to Olorin2607 Oct 28 2013, 8:20pm
            Of course Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 10:26pm
                Some? Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 28 2013, 11:01pm
                    Gut feeling Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:25pm
                        A barely fresh RT critics rating i would consider middling. Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 29 2013, 7:37am
                            The public Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 29 2013, 10:28am
                    No, Estel, 1 billion and a 300 plus million domestic is still a big deal, when one considers what AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 29 2013, 5:05am
    Nice post...I would have to say... MasterOrc Send a private message to MasterOrc Oct 28 2013, 7:00pm
    Guessing 1.2 - 1.3 (give-or-take) but not over 1.5 or under 1.1 Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 10:41pm
        Good guess Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 10:54pm
            A lot of the audience chatter I heard after Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:02pm
                Most people Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:28pm
                    The approval rating from the general audience is 82% on my RT. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:38pm
                        Cool! Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:41pm
                        Percentages on reviews are deceptive, anyway starlesswinter Send a private message to starlesswinter Oct 29 2013, 7:46am
        Thor? Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 28 2013, 11:08pm
            Thor Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:29pm
                I was thinking of the Avengers buzz as well. // Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:39pm
                    It's just got everything going for it Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:43pm
                        Oh wait - I was looking at the domestic number -doh! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:46pm
                            Yeah ... sorry about that ... Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:47pm
                                It's all good Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 28 2013, 11:55pm
                                    I need Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:57pm
                                        I hear that lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Oct 29 2013, 12:28am
            Speaking of the Avengers buzz, though Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 28 2013, 11:41pm
            I tenatively agree here. I am wary. It all depends. If Thor makes about the same increase, for its flux AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Oct 29 2013, 5:08am
    I say Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Oct 28 2013, 11:18pm
    Decrease Bernhardina Send a private message to Bernhardina Oct 29 2013, 9:27am
    It is funny... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 29 2013, 10:39am
        Reasonable expectations Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Oct 29 2013, 11:47am
            Reasonable maybe, but speculations nontheless. And not shared by everybody. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Oct 29 2013, 12:01pm
        Expectations change sometimes Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Oct 30 2013, 1:05am
    Wolf of Wall Street pushed back for a holiday release cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Oct 29 2013, 10:17pm

 
 
 

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