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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition Scene Guide - MAJOR SPOILERS

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Oct 25 2013, 5:30pm

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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition Scene Guide - MAJOR SPOILERS Can't Post

Can't wait until The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition is released on DVD and Blu-ray November 4th? Can't download it on iTunes? Want to know exactly what those 13 minutes of extra footage are going to reveal? Well, wait no more! We have a detailed list of each extended scene, as well as a few screencaps for good measure. Warning: SPOILERS AHEAD!

04:10: Additional footage of Thranduil at Erebor. (Bilbo's voiceover): "All would pay homage to him, even the great elven King Thranduil..." (new) As the great wealth of the dwarves grew, their store of good will ran thin. No one knows exactly what began the rift. The elves say the dwarves stole their treasure. The dwarves tell another tale. They say the Elven king refused to give them their rightful pay. It is sad, Frodo, how old alliances can be broken, how friendships between peoples can be lost. And for what?"

07:03 -- We get to see a little bit more of Smaug flying overhead.

09:38 -- Hobbiton at night; a party for Old Took; Gandalf's fireworks! We get a couple of Hobbit cameos - production designer Dan Hennah (as Old Took -- in center of shot), and Katie Jackson (daughter of Peter) to his right. "Far away, in another corner of the world, dragons were only make-believe; a party trick conjured by wizards on Midsummer's Eve. No more frightening than fairy dust."¯ A small child is running around Gandalf, attacking him with a play sword and laughing: it's 4-year old Bilbo Baggins. Bilbo's mother runs over and grabs him. "And that, my dear Frodo, is where I come in. It was the beginning of an unlikely friendship that has lasted all my life. But it is not the start of my story. It began...well, it began as you might expect. In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit..."

14:00 - Unlike the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the title card for "An Unexpected Journey" is in the same place as it was in the theatrical version

17:26 -- Bilbo leaves Bag End after Gandalf has gone, but is still wary that he'll run into the wizard. He walks down the hill and into the Hobbiton marketplace. We see Hobbits talking, selling their wares, and children playing. Bilbo buying a piece of fish for his dinner later that evening. A Hobbit stops Bilbo as he's leaving the marketplace and shows off a wheelbarrow full of very large tubers. Bilbo responds, "Very impressive, Mr. Worrywort. Now I don't suppose you've seen a wizard lurking around these parts?"¯ "Tall fellow? Long grey beard? Pointy hat?" Bilbo sees what appears to be a familiar looking hat moving behind a tent, panics, and starts to run away. "Can't say I have", Mr Worrywort responds. Bilbo is relieved when the hat turns out to just be a basket of fabric.

23:15 -- After the dwarves arrive at Bag End, there is some additional footage of the dwarves raiding the pantry, and Bilbo getting more and more annoyed. He attempts to stop Bifur from taking a bottle of wine, only for Bifur to say something unintelligible to him. Oin explains to Bilbo that Bifur has "an injury". "You mean the ax in his head."Bilbo replies sarcastically. Oin puts his hearing aid to his ear. "Dead? No, only between his ears. His legs work fine".

1:25:13 - Additional footage of the Company after they've escaped the Orcs, and into the secret passageway to Rivendell. As they are all walking, Bilbo says, 'Gandalf, where are we?" "You can feel it?"¯ Gandalf replies. "Yes", says Bilbo, "It feels like...well, it feels like magic." Gandalf: "That's exactly what it is- a very powerful magic."

1:30:29 -- Extended scene at Rivendell as the dwarves are eating ("Try it; just a mouthful!" "I don't like green food!"). Kili is making eyes at a female Elven harp player, gives her a smiling wink, and gets a stern look from Dwalin.

Kili trys to play it off: "Can't say I fancy Elf maids myself. Too thin. They're all high cheekbones and creamy skin; not enough facial hair for me. Although..." Just then another elf walks by. "That one there's not bad" Kili says. Dwalin replies, "That's not an elf maid". The elf in question turns to reveal that he is indeed not an elf maid.

Kili looks a bit shocked, then Dwalin winks at him, and everyone bursts out laughing.

1:32:48 - After Gandalf explains to Elrond how they found Glamdring and Elrond inquires why they were on the Great East Road in the first place, Elrond remarks, "13 dwarves and a Halfling; strange travelling companions, Gandalf." "These are the descendants of the House of Durin! They're noble, decent folk." Nori picks up what appears to be an ornate salt shaker and discreetly puts it in his coat. "And they're surprisingly cultured." Bombur stuffs his face with food."They've got a deep love of the arts"¯. Nori turns to the harp player behind him and says "Change the tune, why don't you?? I feel like I'm at a funeral!" "Did someboy die?!" Oin exclaims. Bofur says "Alright lads, there's only one thing for it!"¯, jumps onto the table, and starts to sing: (note: This is a revised edition of a song that was originally recited by Frodo in The Lord of the Rings(book), while at The Prancing Pony)

"There is an inn, a merry old inn
beneath an old grey hill,
And there they brew a beer so brown
That the Man in the Moon himself came down
one night to drink his fill.

The ostler has a tipsy cat
that plays a five-stringed fiddle;
And up and down he saws his bow
Now squeaking high, now purring low,
now sawing in the middle.

So the cat on the fiddle played hey-diddle-diddle,
a jig that would wake the dead:
He squeaked and sawed and quickened the tune,
While the landlord shook the Man in the Moon:
"It's after three!" he said.

The other elves join in, and also start throwing food around. Something comes very close to hitting Lindir!

1: 1:39:03 - After the scene on Weathertop with Azog: Additional footage in Rivendell (daytime); Bilbo is wandering around the Last Homely House, and approaches the statue holding the shards of Narsil.

He only glances at it, before turning toward the painting on the wall - Isildur as he is about to cut the One Ring from Sauron's hand.

Bilbo's eye goes directly to the One Ring on Sauron's finger. We then see Bilbo outside, walking and gazing at the beauty of Rivendell. As Bilbo is standing on a balcony, Elrond approaches him.

"Not with your companions?"¯ Elrond remarks. "Ah, I shan't be missed", Bilbo replies. "The truth is most of them don't think I should be on this journey." "Indeed" Elrond says "I've heard that Hobbits are very resilient." Bilbo laughs, and then realizes that Elrond isn't joking. "Really?" "Mmm. I've also heard they're fond of the comforts of home." Bilbo thinks about that for a moment and then confides to Elrond, "And I've heard that it's unwise to seek the counsel of elves, for they will answer both yes and no." At first, Elrond does not seem amused by this, but then a soft smile appears on this face, and Bilbo has an uneasy laugh. "You are very welcome to stay here, if that is your wish." Bilbo appears to consider it.

The scene then cuts to Lindir and Elrond walking, and (speaking in Elvish), Lindir tells Elrond:

And this is why the PG-13 rating details for the Extended Edition were expanded to include "brief nudity":

1:42:07 -- Rivendell at night, just after Bofur throws a sausage at Bombur and the table he's on collapses. The scene cuts away to Bilbo walking alone, and he overhears Gandalf and Elrond talking.

"Of course I was going to tell you", Gandalf says, "I was waiting for this very chance. And really, I -- I think you can trust that I know what I am doing." "Do you?" Elrond replies. "That dragon has slept for sixty years. What will happen if your plan should fail? If you wake that beast..." Gandalf cuts him off; "But if we succeed! What if the dwarves take back the mountain, then our defenses in the east will be strengthened."

Elrond: "It's a dangerous move, Gandalf."

As Bilbo listens to them, he turns to see that Thorin is standing behind him.

Gandalf: "It is also dangerous to do nothing! Oh, come -- the throne of Erebor is Thorin's birthright! What is it you fear?"

Saruman: "Have you forgotten, a strain of madness runs deep in that family. His grandfather lost his mind. His father succumbed to the same sickness. Can you swear Thorin Oakenshield will not also fall? Gandalf, these decisions to not rest with us alone. It is not up to you or me to redraw the map of Middle-earth." This leads into the theatrical scene where they walk up the steps to the balcony, where they meet Galadriel and Saruman.

1:45:10 -- At the meeting of the White Council, after Saurman tells Gandalf "Sauron is defeated! He can never regain his full strength", Gandalf replies, "Does it not worry you that the last of the dwarf rings should simply vanish, along with its bearer? Of the 7 dwarf rings, 4 were consumed by dragons, 2 were taken by Sauron before he fell in Mordor. The fate of the last dwarf ring remains unknown. The ring that was borne by Thrain."

Saruman: "Without the Ring of Power, the 7 are of no value to the enemy! To control the other rings, he needs the One Ring, and that ring was lost long, long ago. It was swept out to see by the waters of the Anduin. The scene then cuts back to Elrond reminding Gandalf that Middle-earth has been at peace for many years.

2:04:24 - After the dwarves are captured, Bilbo sneaks away but falls down the crevasse, and the dwarves are taken to see the Goblin King. As he sits, music starts, and the Goblin King says "I feel a song coming on!"

Snip snap, the black crack

Grip, grab, pinch, and nab

Batter and beat

Milk 'em, stammer and squeak!

Pound pound, far underground

Down, down, down in Goblin Town

With a swish and smack

And a whip and a crack

Everybody talks when they're on our rack

Pound pound, far underground

Down, down, down in Goblin Town

Hammer and torch, get out your knockers and gongs

You wont last long on the end of my prongs

Clish, clash, crush and smash

Bang, break, shiver and shake

You can yell and yelp

But there aint no help

Pound pound, far underground

Down, down, down in Goblin Town

"Catchy, isnt' it?" says the Goblin King, "It's one of my own compositions"
"That's not a song, it's an abomination!" cries Balin.

"Abominations, mutations, deviations...that all you're gonna find down here", the Goblin King replies.

2:06:55 - The goblins start searching the dwarves for weapons, and empty out a large bag of what appears to be Elvish cutlery and candlesticks. The Goblin King examines a gold candelabra and turns it over: "Made in Rivendell?" he says "Bah - Second Age, couldn't give it away!" he exclaims, and tosses it aside.

Nori has a guilty expression on his face as Oin turns to look at him. "Just a couple of keepsakes", Nori explains. "What are you doing in these parts", the Goblin King asks. "Don't worry, lads - I'll handle this", Oin offers. "No tricks!", says the Goblin King, "I want the truth! Warts and all!" "You're going to have to speak up", Oin says, "Your boys have flattened my trumpet". "I'll flatten more than your trumpet!" the Goblin King roars, and walks toward Oin. "If it's more information you're wanting, ''m the one you should speak to!", Bofur offers. The Goblin King pauses. "We were on the road...well, it's not so much a road as a path...actually, it's not even that, come to think of it, it's more like a track. Anyway, the point is we were on this road, like a path, like a track, and then we weren't! Which is a problem, because we were supposed to be in Dunland last Tuesday." The dwarves try to add additional information before the Goblin King cuts them off.


I hope this tides you all over until you can see the Extended Edition for yourselves, not to mention the nearly 9 hours of extras! I myself am looking forward to the day when I can watch all three Hobbit Extended Editions, followed by The Lord of the Rings Trilogy EE's.

deej is a staff member for the 100% all-volunteer TheOneRing.net, and obviously has far too much free time on her hands.

(This post was edited by Silverlode on Oct 26 2013, 7:41am)

The Shire

Oct 26 2013, 3:39pm

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High Res? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is it possible to get high resolution copies of those screen shots? They are nearly impossible to see.


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Oct 27 2013, 5:26pm

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The one thing I am not a fan of are modern words / concepts [In reply to] Can't Post

...such as mutation, Made in Rivendell etc.


Oct 27 2013, 6:08pm

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But [In reply to] Can't Post

Were not the Orcs "Mutated" elves ;)


Oct 27 2013, 6:31pm

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The origin story is not settled but the term would not have been [In reply to] Can't Post

mutated. They were bred. Mutation is a modern word. Though the root word Latin mutare is to change could have an elvish equivalent. Common tongue would have used breeding changes etc.


Darwinism relies on random MUTATION. Latin mutare is to change. This is traced to the theoretical Indo-European “root” mei- 1 ( to change, go, move). Changing location is moving. In Genesis 4:14 Cain is the first recorded COMMUTER, mover or “wanderer” (JPS) NaDaH is to move or give. NaDad is to move away or wander (Isaiah 16:2). Nasal-dental Noon-Dalet shifting to M-T in Indo-European is not much of a MUTATION.

Listed cognates with this MT element include COMMUTE, MEATUS, MOLT, MUTANT, PERMEATE, PERMUTE, REMUDA, and TRANSMUTE. Among the listed cognates that should be NaDa[K]H (driven out) are MIGRATE – see MIGRATE. In Spanish mudar is to change or shift, and mudarse is to change residence.


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Oct 27 2013, 6:37pm)

Eye's on Guard

Oct 27 2013, 7:19pm

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Yeah, the whole Made in Rivendell thing... [In reply to] Can't Post

Didn't even make sense. Not only the fact that "Made in..." stamps are a modern development, but also why would the Rivendell elves mark the origin of something that was for their own use? Also, apparently the Goblin King can somehow recognize that something was made in the Second Age but not know where it was made without looking. Crazy

However, besides that, I think the rest of the sequence was alright. I especially liked Balin's reaction to the "song"...I must admit I agree with him! Angelic


Oct 27 2013, 7:21pm

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I recognize the attempted humor, but in reality it breaks the immersive [In reply to] Can't Post

experience for some of us as suddenly, we see the script writers getting cute, and it pulls us out of that world.

Eye's on Guard

Oct 27 2013, 7:45pm

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Exactly... [In reply to] Can't Post

And for me this one is the worst because it actually makes you stop and think, "Wait, there's no way they did that in Middle-earth." The Goblin King would have found no such inscription on the bottom of that candlestick.

I personally can live with "mutations" and "nervous systems" because it's just terminology. Some of the dialogue has been made contemporary anyway, a translation of sorts.

Tol Eressea

Oct 27 2013, 8:20pm

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Agreed. [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To
The one thing I am not a fan of are modern words/concepts such as mutation, Made in Rivendell etc.

They were already kind of pushing the boundaries of Middle-earth-ness with their portayal of the Goblin King as it is, in my opinion. These sorts of self-aware, modern "jokes" certainly don't help matters. I thought parasites was pushing it. And i was never a fan of the dwarf tossing jokes, either.


Oct 28 2013, 7:46am

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Yes ... [In reply to] Can't Post

There is a line that really jumped out at me, when the dwarves were in the trolls' cave burying their loot, and one of them says "I'm making a long term deposit." Someone must have thought that was funny, but it had no place in the film and to me was a prime example of where they went wrong.

I hated the Goblin King as well and the couple of times I have watched the film on DVD, I have just skipped through the entire goblin caves scene (along with the warg chase, most of the stone giants and any scenes with Azog in them.)


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