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Galadriel and Gandalf the White

Yngwulff
Gondor


Oct 12 2013, 8:35am

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Do you think Galadriel may have seen Gandalf in the white garb in her mirror prior to the events in AUJ, thus her deference to him over Saruman???

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.



Girdle of Melian
Lorien

Oct 12 2013, 9:29am

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We do not know for sure. It is possible. However, Galadriel has always been good with getting vibes from other people. He distrusted Sauron who was in disguise, and Saruman, after he fell from grace, knew that Galadriel never liked him from the start and told Gandalf as a parting shot that she never liked him, and always plotted for Gandalf.

GOM


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 12 2013, 9:31am

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I think she sensed in him, as Cirdan did, a greater wisdom and a greater majesty that was veiled and [In reply to] Can't Post

less desirous of being praised or adulated, or even acknowledged on account of that hidden greatness, whereas Saruman was already proud and overconcerned with his own station, despite still being of goodwill and generally well meaning.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


dormouse
Half-elven


Oct 12 2013, 10:58am

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I doubt it. I think she is simply wise enough to see... [In reply to] Can't Post

.. the strength behind Gandalf's humility and the danger in Saruman's pride.


IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Oct 12 2013, 2:25pm

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Apparently when Gandalf came to Middle Earth he carried with him the Elessar Stone. He gave this to Galadriel. This was the green jewel she eventually gave to Aragorn as a sign that he was king. This stone has an interesting history. My guess is that Gandalf always intended to align himself with the powerful elves still in Middle Earth. You notice that Saruman didn't really do this. He was a loner. BUt Gandalf recognized that he needed the help of others and sought it out.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 12 2013, 8:10pm

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I LOVE that scene with Gandalf and Galadriel. However, Saruman was not so much a loner [In reply to] Can't Post

as proud. It wasn't that he wasn't aligned with The Elves, but he went more among men, who were more likely to be more fully awed by his talents and skill (and daunted by his longevity and power).

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Apparently when Gandalf came to Middle Earth he carried with him the Elessar Stone. He gave this to Galadriel. This was the green jewel she eventually gave to Aragorn as a sign that he was king. This stone has an interesting history. My guess is that Gandalf always intended to align himself with the powerful elves still in Middle Earth. You notice that Saruman didn't really do this. He was a loner. BUt Gandalf recognized that he needed the help of others and sought it out.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Old Pilgrim
Rivendell


Oct 13 2013, 5:52am

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but she sensed Gandalf's inner strenght and wisdom. I like it how they portrayed their relationship in AUJ but it is a shame that those two characters never
met and talk in the LOTR because it would be very nice and we could also learn about what she thought of Sarumans betrayal.


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Oct 13 2013, 7:10am

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Gandalf and Galadriel surely are reunited in the movies at the Gray Havens to board the boat Into the West. After thinking Gandalf was dead, it is comforting that she was able to sail with him (and Elrond and Bilbo).


Elizabeth
Valinor


Oct 13 2013, 7:47am

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She saw the resurrected Gandalf before Aragorn et al. [In reply to] Can't Post

She is the one who sent the eagles, who took him to Lorien where she presumably gave him his white robes and new staff, as well as messages to the company.








dubulous
Rohan

Oct 13 2013, 10:53am

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She might have, but I think her preference was based purely on intuition [In reply to] Can't Post

She seems to have a particular talent for judging everyone's character, and to see in them the potential to either good or evil.

Cirdan also saw this in Gandalf. He could have given his ring to Saruman who arrived first, but it was Gandalf who he saw would put it to best use.

 
 

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