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Inspecting closely, Gandalf's comment about the enemy returning, which itself

AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 2 2013, 6:42am

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Inspecting closely, Gandalf's comment about the enemy returning, which itself Can't Post

may not be spoken in the same scene as the "We've been blind" comment, may be spoken near the High Fells not outside of Dol Guldur. It looks more like a closeup version of his commentary to Radagast at the beginning of vlog 11 (or 12?) rather than the scene of them outside of Dol Guldur in trailer 1. Merely a thought.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


Avnar
Lorien


Oct 2 2013, 6:59am

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I think you are right.

It also puzzles me why people think that Dwalin is referring to Thranduil with the whole "can we trust him" line when Bard is clearly the one who is giving them a boat ride...

I guess that's trailers for you Cool


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Oct 2 2013, 7:28am

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absolutely [In reply to] Can't Post

I am happy somebody else had the same thought. The background looks the same AS in the Vlog.
I think that whole phrase could have been spoken outside the High Fells....


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 2 2013, 8:27am

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Agreed, though I am still not sure the first part of the statement is spoken [In reply to] Can't Post

at the same time as the second. Maybe I am just holding out hope that the first line is to the whole council. lol

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I am happy somebody else had the same thought. The background looks the same AS in the Vlog.
I think that whole phrase could have been spoken outside the High Fells....


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Oct 2 2013, 8:29am

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Lol. Pretty much. I am not puzzled for lay fans, but for the detectives here, yea [In reply to] Can't Post

that is surprising. The trailer definitely sets it up that way, but only if you do not know the background from both the books and the vlogs.

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I think you are right.

It also puzzles me why people think that Dwalin is referring to Thranduil with the whole "can we trust him" line when Bard is clearly the one who is giving them a boat ride...

I guess that's trailers for you Cool


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Oct 2 2013, 9:17am

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at the same time [In reply to] Can't Post

It kinda confirms the High Fells will be in present time and not a Flashback.


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Oct 2 2013, 9:48am

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Radagasts line from the Vlog "if what you say is true..." just fits PERFECTLY right after Gandalfs "We have been blind...". Also, the expression of Gandalfs face is the same in the Vlog and the trailer.


Retro315
Rivendell

Oct 2 2013, 4:49pm

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RE [In reply to] Can't Post

Trailers are often chopped up. But still, the trailer-makers chose scenes in ways that at least give an idea about the nature of characters.

Thranduil isn't about to bargain or really help the dwarves - but a novice going in with knowledge of other elf-lords from LOTR might not realize that.

But they're definitely referring to Bard. He's the most rogue-like character in either trilogy, and has a whole different vibe than Aragorn ever had (less of a "gold that doesn't glitter" and just extremely dour and grim).


AinurOlorin
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Oct 2 2013, 8:52pm

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I suspect the same. Though it is hard to say. It would make for a long flashback, [In reply to] Can't Post

though not necessarily longer than the Azanulbizar scene, and the recollection of the rescue from Isengard had dialogue which seemed real time. So many questions! lol

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It kinda confirms the High Fells will be in present time and not a Flashback.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Oct 2 2013, 10:24pm

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hm [In reply to] Can't Post


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though not necessarily longer than the Azanulbizar scene, and the recollection of the rescue from Isengard had dialogue which seemed real time. So many questions! lol

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It kinda confirms the High Fells will be in present time and not a Flashback.



But i guess these tomb sequence wouldnt have been a good Flashback either way. Seems to complex and "slow" to me...

 
 

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