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Shipper! Not feeling Legoriel, like, at all!
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Oct 2 2013, 12:45pm

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The Symbolism of the Pendant [In reply to] Can't Post

This was how I interpreted the scene. And here's a clue: this is the only time we've ever seen Tauriel's necklace. There's just a flash of it but I managed to capture it and clean it up a bit. It looks like a diamond set in a leaf shape of silver: a symbolic gift from Thranduil on becoming Captain of the Guards? Her look may imply the knowledge that she is going to "betray" him by disobeying his orders that no Elves leave Mirkwood as she chases after the Dwarves and their Orc pursuers.

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We hear Thranduil say to Tauriel that Legolas is fond of her; she mustn't give him hope. So everyone jumps to the obvious conclusion: Legolas is falling for Tauriel. But is that really what's happening or are they teasing us here? What is the hope that Tauriel mustn't give Legolas? Hope that the two of them can dance off into the sunset hand-in-hand together - or hope that the elves can defeat the evil that's taking over Mirkwood. Could Thranduil just be talking about hope of victory? "Don't persuade my son to go out and fight because it will end in failure and he'll probably be killed in battle as my father was." (That's the story behind Thranduil's reluctance to leave the forest).

Don't mess with my favorite female elf.


Oct 2 2013, 1:45pm

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Love [In reply to] Can't Post

I actually don't think that line refers to love between the two or the hint that there could be. I think that scene is going to come after her and Legolas talk about them needing to get involved in Middle-earth's business. Thranduil is going to tell her that in basically we got no dog in this fight type comment. She's then going to take off to Lake Town because she doesn't feel what he said was right. Then you have Legolas go after her because there is at most a brother/sister relationship between the two.

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Oct 2 2013, 2:23pm

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Ah, but many doesn't equal any / [In reply to] Can't Post


Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.

"Life can't be all work and no TORn" -- jflower

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Oct 2 2013, 2:36pm

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This theory I like! [In reply to] Can't Post

*fingers crossed, hoping this is the case* This makes the most sense out of any Tauriel speculation I have seen so far since the trailer came out!

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Oct 2 2013, 3:23pm

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My Guess on the Pendant... [In reply to] Can't Post

My guess is that the pendant is a gift from Legolas to Tauriel. Thranduil sees it, knows who gave it to her and it prompts the warning that he gives her against encouraging Legolas' affection. I don't believe we're being mislead in this. It makes way more sense than other explanations thus far.

At this point, what we don't know is whether or not Tauriel feels the same way about Legolas, that he does about her. If she does, and she's being warned off because he's way above her station, that may be the reason that she goes off to Laketown - she's annoyed with what Thranduil says to her and goes off in a bit of a huff.

Didn't EL mention that there is a romance, and that it prompts her to do what she does in the film?

Semper Fi

Oct 2 2013, 3:41pm

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her looks says "I love you, not Legolas" [In reply to] Can't Post

And, yes, I do believe Thrandy gave her the pendant. And that he loves her too. HeartHeartHeart

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Oct 2 2013, 11:09pm

Post #57 of 58 (142 views)
I agree, Thranduil's comment comes across as a backhanded insult. [In reply to] Can't Post

Like he is reminding Tauriel that she is Silvan and he and Legolas are Sindar.
If this turns out to be the case, then he is pulling an "Elrond" on her, and the reference to "...there is no hope" echoes Arwen's "There is always hope." from LOTR.


Oct 3 2013, 1:23am

Post #58 of 58 (139 views)
This shot [In reply to] Can't Post

This shot always gives me the impression that Thranduil is looking at a movie screen....

It takes a bit of adjustment to realize he is actually behind Tauriel. Maybe I need glasses.

(This post was edited by HiddenSpring on Oct 3 2013, 1:24am)

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