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Elskidor
Rohan

Sep 28 2013, 10:13pm

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Do you think we will get more Tolkien movies after The Hobbit trilogy? Will PJ get the green light for more tales, and would he want to?


flameofudun
Lorien

Sep 28 2013, 10:22pm

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The silmarillion someday, though it possibly be as late as 2040! That's when the rights are open for the silmarillion.

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Elskidor
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Sep 28 2013, 10:33pm

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Had no idea about that. Well maybe Balin's tale into Moria then. Or some side story that could make a stand alone tale. Too bad Saruman's return to the Shire can't be told via film.


Voronw_the_Faithful
Valinor

Sep 28 2013, 10:34pm

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The Silmarillion will likely not enter the public domain until 70 years after Christopher Tolkien's death, as he likely would be considered a "co-author" for copyright purposes.

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Arannir
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Sep 28 2013, 10:48pm

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Others have said why.


But I still think "The Children of Hurin" would make a pretty good movie.



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Thranderz
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Sep 28 2013, 11:15pm

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I don't think we'll any more Tolkien films in our lifetime unless they re-make the current ones. Frown

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TITANICXB
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Sep 29 2013, 8:49am

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I hate to be negative nancy here, but an Unexpected Journey wasn't the best adaption...it wasn't anywhere near the level that LOTR Trilogy was on..

I don't really want PJ to make any more movies lol. IMO, he went the way of George Lucas...

Am I going to be flamed here for saying that?


dormouse
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Sep 29 2013, 10:18am

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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 29 2013, 12:19pm

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The Saul Zaentz Company only has film rights to 'TH' and 'LotR' [In reply to] Can't Post

As long as the Tolkien Estate refuses to sell film rights to any of Prof. Tolkien's other works we can only look forward to future remakes of The Hobbit and/or The Lord of the Rings or original movies derived solely from those works (including the LotR Appendices).

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Lio
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Sep 29 2013, 8:16pm

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For reasons that have already been pointed out by other in this thread, I don't think we'll be getting any more Tolkien movies soon. And even if we were, I fairly sure PJ will be done with Middle-earth after these films. I think the best we can hope for is remakes, but the original trilogy is so iconic that I doubt anyone would want to give it a go soon. Maybe if it's in a completely format (TV series, animation), but I don't know. Frown

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Elskidor
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Sep 29 2013, 8:39pm

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I'd go for a TV series. If done right, they could squeeze a season or 2 out of it. Maybe more.


malickfan
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Sep 29 2013, 8:59pm

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I'm known for having very strong opinion's on the other books being adapted so I won't bore everyone again, but judging by the following interview by Christopher Tolkien we discussed on the forum last year the Tolkien estate don't seem very open to the idea or hassle of further adaptions (Though with the silmarillion it would basically be a fan fiction rewrite to sell it at the cinema):

http://newboards.theonering.net/...%20Interview;#464709


Of course Christopher dosen't speak for the whole family but as I understand, his son Adam, and likely sucessor in waiting to his seat on the esate shares similar views.


It dosen't need to happen, and personally I don't want it to.

I don't have much to say.



Elizabeth
Valinor


Sep 30 2013, 12:18am

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One for each book! I could go for that.








Hanzkaz
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Sep 30 2013, 8:50am

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Do you think we will get more Tolkien movies after The Hobbit trilogy? Will PJ get the green light for more tales, and would he want to?


- would be some version of the 'War in the North'.

It would be both a sequel to the Hobbit Trilogy and a 'sidequel' to the Lord of the Rings movies. I can't see the studios passing up such a potential moneymaker.

Obviously, this is going to require a lot of 'filler-material', but if mainstream audiences are happy with the original material in the Hobbit Trilogy, they may be ready to return to Middle-Earth, once again.

Going by what they did with Legolas, I'd expect the film-makers to take advantage of the popularity of the characters of Thranduil, Thorin's companions, and perhaps even Radagast, Tauriel and Dain, if they're around, while the actors are still available. (Recasting can be tricky. People have gotten used to the two (so far) versions of Bilbo, but there is only ONE Gandalf).

I imagine that there's plenty of unused material from the current two Middle-Earth Trilogies that would be suitable for a follow-up. Personally I'd like to see a 'hidden' Dnedain fortress. Aragorn's 'dangerous' people seem to have been pretty much side-lined, so far.

There is one part at the end of the Hobbit novel that I could see as a potential movie hook. It was the part where Orcrist was placed on Thorin's tomb (That would definitely give audiences a 'To be continued' vibe.).


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Apart from the War in the North, I could easily see some spin-off movies set during other times in Middle-Earths's history.

Part of the reason for the huge budgets of the current M-E movies was due to the necessity of adapting the source material. A decent original script movie could work with a lower budget. They just have to get writers with a a talent for writing historical epics and set them loose on Middle-Earth.
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From the makers of 'The Lord of the Rings' comes the sequel to Peter Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy -
'The War in the North, Part I : The Sword in the Tomb'.



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Sep 30 2013, 4:05pm

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grammaboodawg
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Sep 30 2013, 10:30pm

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but unless there are other stories done with as much care, authenticity, look, feel, sound and reverence as these original films, don't bother. ;)

HOWEVER, Andy Serkis is proving to be very adept at maintaining Peter's sensibilities and look when filming... as well as Christian Rivers, Philippa Boyens... so many of those who have walked this walk already who I would trust with continuing the work. Time will tell ;)



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Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell


Sep 30 2013, 10:30pm

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is really downbeat for a Hollywood movie. It'd be interesting to see how many changes were made (and how annoyed everyone would get).

"Durin's Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it. We will not enter Khazad-dum. You will not enter Khazad-dum. Beyond the shadow of the gate it waits for you still: Durins Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durins Folk walk again in Moria.


Elizabeth
Valinor


Oct 1 2013, 12:52am

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...on the War in the North. Not much to go on, so we'd be looking at all new material. Frankly, I haven't been impressed with Jackson's additions, such as all the nonsensical "Arwen is dying" material, so I'd rather pass.

No worries, though, about Gandalf's availability, as he was pretty thoroughly occupied before, during, and after the Black Gate confrontation, so wouldn't be in a War in the North movie.








Hanzkaz
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Oct 1 2013, 8:19am

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haven't been impressed with Jackson's additions, such as all the nonsensical "Arwen is dying" material, so I'd rather pass.

No worries, though, about Gandalf's availability, as he was pretty thoroughly occupied before, during, and after the Black Gate confrontation, so wouldn't be in a War in the North movie.


- is popular with mainstream audiences (meaning the ones who aren't necessarily fans of the books), that may be enough to persuade the studios to go on another trip to Middle-Earth.


As for the War in the North cast, I'd expect more of the 'newer' Middle-Earth characters (the ones introduced in the Hobbit Trilogy) than the LOTR 'old guard', to play a part.
We should probably still expect Elrond and Galadriel (and hopefully Celeborn) to be present, but I'd be curious to see if they could include a cameo of Gandalf showing what he'd been up to between his encounter with the Balrog and his appearance at Fangorn.

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From the makers of 'The Lord of the Rings' comes the sequel to Peter Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy -
'The War in the North, Part I : The Sword in the Tomb'.



Darkstone
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Oct 1 2013, 6:47pm

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That is, never.




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He had some wings that weren't there.
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Darkstone
Immortal


Oct 3 2013, 7:53pm

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Hobbit Babies.

The Shiremaniacs.

When Aragorn Met Arwen.

Balin's Eleven.

Gentle Beorn.

Smaug Versus Godzilla.

Desperate Shieldmaidens.

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I met a Balrog on the stair,
He had some wings that weren't there.
They weren't there again today,
I wish he would just fly away.


Meneldor
Tol Eressea


Oct 3 2013, 8:29pm

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Gollum: Into Darkness

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Oct 4 2013, 3:30am

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Oct 4 2013, 7:37am

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