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Dumbledore vs. Gandalf

Ziggy Stardust

Sep 19 2013, 1:23am

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Dumbledore vs. Gandalf Can't Post

So, if these two were to meet, what would they do? If they dueled (in magic powers) who would win?
Or, would these two end up having a conversation?
You decide! Wink


Sep 19 2013, 5:00pm

Post #2 of 7 (614 views)
Well, the superior Wizard, obviously [In reply to] Can't Post

The one that Rowling heavily based her headmaster on. Wink

Seriously though, Gandalf has been around since before the creation of the world, and as a Maiar he possesses power beyond Dumbledore's wildest dreams-he also has the Elven ring of fire. Though his powers were limited while in the form of Gandalf, Olorin still got to employ some pretty incredible displays of magic, e.g. calling down lightning.

Oh, and when he died he did not in fact die, as Dumbledore did, but came back even mightier than before.


Of course the likelihood of them fighting is fairly small-they'd most likely be best friends if they knew one another!

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."-Gandalf

Ziggy Stardust

Sep 20 2013, 2:04am

Post #3 of 7 (552 views)
So true on all counts! [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf has power beyond Dumbledore, yet I bet they'd be best friends.

Dumbledore: So nice to meet you, Gandalf. Did you know, I got ideas from you?
Gandalf: Really?
Dumbledore: Oh yes. Otherwise, how could I have come up with those brilliant ideas. Did you know, Voldemort copied off of your adversary Sauron? Talk about a god-complex!

Grey Havens

Sep 20 2013, 4:10pm

Post #4 of 7 (552 views)
Dumbledore would offer Gandalf a butterbeer, and [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf would return the favor with some of his best Longbottom Leaf, and they would spend a companionable afternoon sharing tales of their adventures and advice on caring for beards.

Rather as Father Christmas and Odin might, were they to meet.

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Sep 20 2013, 5:31pm

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I'd love to be there for that conversation [In reply to] Can't Post

and a little of that Butterbeer too Smile.

Werde Spinner

Sep 21 2013, 1:57am

Post #6 of 7 (540 views)
Gandalf, of course. [In reply to] Can't Post

Dumbledore died and stayed dead. Gandalf took dying in stride and came back! Plus, he is an angelic spirit created before the formation of the universe itself, he has the Elven sword Glamdrig as well as his staff (he can attack you physically as well as magically, which is something just about every wizard in the HP world never thinks of), and he has the Elven Ring of Fire. He is the Wizard. He can do as he chooses. Plus, he didn't just defeat some puny mortal wizards; he orchestrated several countries and races into bringing down a demonic overlord. That is an accomplishment.

Gandalf for the win.

Oh, and I think someone's done this in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KB5Gqr_dXk Laugh Sorry, Dumbledore, but just when you think you've defeated him he comes back as the White.

However, I'd like to see how a conversation between them would go over.

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Oct 9 2013, 9:54pm

Post #7 of 7 (610 views)
Death seemed to be a loose concept in HP as [In reply to] Can't Post

the departed still hung around and could come and go with a spirit body.


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