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Midle Earth isn't 2003 just in Hollywood

Semper Fi
Rohan


Sep 20 2013, 1:39pm


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Midle Earth isn't 2003 just in Hollywood [In reply to] Can't Post

It's everywhere. The trend has changed. The movies are still big success with audiences (and 3D, inflation and expanded markets help blunt the rather sharp drop in ticket sales) but other movies are the generation's obession (super-hero and YA come to mind and look at the buzz new Star Wars is creating). It's not unusual, in fact, it's veyr common that was what a fad 10 years ago isn't a fad when it tries to come back a decade later.

However, truth to be told, they didn't sell the idea of 1 book-3 movie split well. The general perception was/is that it's a cash grab so obivously they didn't convey the creative reasons properly. I'd aslo say it doesn't help that Twilight did the same thing (splitting a book in which nothing happens into 2 movies in which nothing happens) which was a blantant cash grab. In short, while filming one book in a tirlogy as one movie was viewed as remarkable creative inovation, splitting one book into 2 or 3 movies is seen as cash grab and no one so far managed to convince the public that it isn't so.

Finally, Hobbit did feel like it was made in 2001-2003. There was no progess in directing and stylistic choices that both stayed true to the material they want to tie in with and showed artistic growth on the director's part. CGI evelved but direction remained the same only tad not lazier but more autopilot if you know what I mean? Jackson can do these movies in his sleep and that's how AUJ felt,like he did it in his sleep. No flare and florish. No taking chances. Just safe film-making that repeats the formula of 2001-2003. Which is what he was doing in King KOng and Lovely Bones. So if there's perception that he peaked with LOTR it's due to unchanging, unevolving direction. Unlike, lets say, Daniel Craig's Bond franchise that's constantly evolving with time and trends instead of repeating the style of, I dunno, Pierce Brosnan movies. That worked wonders with Skyfall.

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Subject User Time
Dos:Academy Awards Peterthorn of Rohan Send a private message to Peterthorn of Rohan Sep 17 2013, 7:37pm
    I think... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Sep 17 2013, 8:34pm
    Probably a lot in the artistic and technical categories. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Sep 17 2013, 9:02pm
    Best Adapted Screenplay Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Sep 17 2013, 11:35pm
        The way things are going Best Original Screenplay seems to be more acurate... malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Sep 18 2013, 12:48pm
            There are no shoe-ins for the third movie in major categories Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 1:10pm
            I think CTolkien would agree with that Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Sep 18 2013, 10:22pm
                When PJ&CO Swept in 2003, everyone wanted in his pants pocket Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Sep 18 2013, 11:02pm
                    Well said, Bomby Noria Send a private message to Noria Sep 19 2013, 1:54pm
                        Why is it so hard to believe they just didn't like HFR w/o any agenda? Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 19 2013, 2:07pm
                            I saw the HFR Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 2:13pm
                                I did but it didn't distract me Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 19 2013, 2:46pm
                                    The only time Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 2:55pm
                                        You're onto something Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 19 2013, 3:17pm
                                            And there's others ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 19 2013, 3:28pm
                                            Conspiracy Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 3:31pm
                                        I had the same feeling with the moment too... cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 19 2013, 7:12pm
                                            Glad that Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 7:45pm
                                            I found a significant difference between ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 19 2013, 7:48pm
                                                IMAX Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 9:41pm
                                                    I hope... cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 19 2013, 11:06pm
                                                        I understand Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 11:29pm
                                                            I considered the same thing, actually. cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 19 2013, 11:37pm
                                                                Technology Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 11:48pm
                                                                    If for nothing else... cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 19 2013, 11:54pm
                                                                        Good point Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 19 2013, 11:59pm
                                                                            It's an adjustment, for sure... cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 20 2013, 3:26am
                                                                                Same here Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 20 2013, 4:04am
                                                                                    Totally agree.. Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Sep 20 2013, 6:39am
                                                                                        3D Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 20 2013, 11:59am
                                                                                    Get yourself a smart TV DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 20 2013, 9:52am
                                                                                        Funny enough Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 20 2013, 12:01pm
                                                        Our IMAX theatre here showed it only in regular 3D, not HFR Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Sep 20 2013, 4:45am
                            Honestly I feel like I was watching a completely different film Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Sep 19 2013, 3:43pm
                                Jackson and WB didn't handle the initial backlash well at all Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 19 2013, 3:59pm
                                    Surely the limit on the number of HFR showings last time.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Sep 19 2013, 5:43pm
                                        Arrrrrr!!! CaptainMorgan Send a private message to CaptainMorgan Sep 19 2013, 9:47pm
                            I was trying to figure out who originally brought up a conspiracy theory. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Sep 19 2013, 3:48pm
                                What I'm calling a conspiracy theory Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 19 2013, 4:59pm
                            No conspiracy theory, nor an agenda - IMO times had changed. Noria Send a private message to Noria Sep 19 2013, 10:42pm
                                Midle Earth isn't 2003 just in Hollywood Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 20 2013, 1:39pm
    ... kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Sep 18 2013, 12:57am
    Visual nom (not win) is the only guaranteed Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 1:42am
        yes, It depends on how good other films are.. glor Send a private message to glor Sep 18 2013, 10:40am
            I agree that 2003 was a weak year Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 10:54am
                Sorry.. glor Send a private message to glor Sep 18 2013, 11:29am
                    Gravity - Picture, Director, Actress, SFX locked. Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 12:19pm
                        I am going to have to Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Sep 18 2013, 2:42pm
                ROTK glor Send a private message to glor Sep 18 2013, 11:39am
                    They don't have to nominate anything or anyone Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 12:50pm
                        I don't totally disagree. glor Send a private message to glor Sep 18 2013, 1:19pm
                            Sadly, Andy won't happen unless he acts out of mo'cap Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 1:59pm
    Baftas Peterthorn of Rohan Send a private message to Peterthorn of Rohan Sep 18 2013, 5:10am
        I'm sorry but no Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 10:15am
    All of those Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 18 2013, 12:20pm
    Overall, I agree with Semper Fi, Noria Send a private message to Noria Sep 18 2013, 12:20pm
    Here's my complete list Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Sep 18 2013, 4:03pm
        Intrestingly enough Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 4:50pm
            I'd be pretty surprised if that happened. Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 18 2013, 5:23pm
                Yeah I think that Oscars are really of no consequence here Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Sep 18 2013, 5:33pm
                    Agreed Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Sep 18 2013, 5:38pm
    Well... Peterthorn of Rohan Send a private message to Peterthorn of Rohan Sep 18 2013, 6:03pm
        Really have to disagree here Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Sep 18 2013, 9:52pm
            Oscars Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Sep 18 2013, 10:58pm

 
 
 

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