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A Mayor of Laketown Thread!

Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 8 2013, 10:22pm

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A Mayor of Laketown Thread! Can't Post

With PJ & Stephen Fry in the Role!
could be... & Likely
Complicated... Comical, and
of Course
"Simply Brillient"

... Allows SF
to Amaze us ALL
some More!

Imput?

Bomby


Brethil
Half-elven


Sep 9 2013, 12:14am

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I'm thinking 'pompously comical' [In reply to] Can't Post

or comically pompous. Either way. Wink Though I think there will be some vein of vulnerability, and seriousness, relating to his unhappy end, if we follow it through that way.

Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply, and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in November. Happy writing!








DeadRabbits
Lorien


Sep 9 2013, 7:00am

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I imagine him as Lord Melchett from Black Adder... [In reply to] Can't Post

... for obvious reasons, as Melchett was played by Stephen Fry. I'm sure he will deliver a memorable performance, although not quite as silly as Lord Melchett... Fry will pour equal parts of creepiness and comedy into this role. Now that he's cast I can't imagine anyone else as the Master of Laketown!



Lord Melchett

Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Sep 9 2013, 12:58pm

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My image of the Master of Lake-town [In reply to] Can't Post

I have usually pictured the Master of Esgaroth as on of those lean, ambitious men of which Shakespeare's Julius Caesar was always so wary. Jackson seems to have chosen a different direction, which is fine except that I think that he may have Stephen Fry's Master go more than a bit over-the-top. I am guessing that he will be more of a corpulent tick sucking at the town's lifeblood.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Thranderz
Rohan


Sep 9 2013, 3:02pm

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I think he'll be a bit of a general crook... [In reply to] Can't Post

Richard Nixon style Wink

I simply walked into Mordor.


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Sep 10 2013, 12:01am

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All signs point to this being the case (as it is with almost everything else in this adaptation)... [In reply to] Can't Post


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I think that he may have Stephen Fry's Master go more than a bit over-the-top.


Apparently, the Master of Lake-town will have a fondness for dining on a particularly disgusting pair of organs that some folks know as "Rocky Mountain oysters"...


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Sep 10 2013, 12:10am

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Don't know why I think this... [In reply to] Can't Post


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relating to his unhappy end, if we follow it through that way.


...but I have a feeling that somehow, in some way, the Master will be linked to the Necromancer.


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Sep 10 2013, 12:32am

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I can see that [In reply to] Can't Post

However, I always pictured the Mayor of Laketown as being Machiavellian.


Brethil
Half-elven


Sep 10 2013, 12:59pm

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Interesting - showing a connection or influence you think? // [In reply to] Can't Post


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relating to his unhappy end, if we follow it through that way.


...but I have a feeling that somehow, in some way, the Master will be linked to the Necromancer.


Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply, and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in November. Happy writing!








Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 10 2013, 1:41pm

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Brethil, could "Alfred" be a "Grima-type" of Spy?.. [In reply to] Can't Post

from Dol Guldar?

...Influencing the Mayor,
or even.. "Poisionin' his Mind?"
Could Alfred
have a
Long-lost
Pallentir?

Bomby Knows Nothing of Thizz...


Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Sep 10 2013, 1:48pm

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I had assumed... [In reply to] Can't Post

at first blush, that Alfred would be the one running to Bard, at some point, telling him what is going on. I would think that he would be a mini-hero who, rising up from servile subjection, helps save the town at the right moment.

Just how my imagination puts it out there....


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Sep 10 2013, 5:20pm

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The Master [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't know why, I just have that feeling...


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Sep 10 2013, 5:30pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

I have that feeling about every major antagonistic character of the film series (except Thranduil, if we want to consider him antagonistic based on DoS events.) Azog, Bolg ( I think we have actually been told this about him), and the Master.

Though I think the Master's connection may be less direct and more tenuous, more a matter of his greed and corruption making him vulnerable to manipulation than any deliberate decision by him to ally with Orcs or the Necromancer.


Brethil
Half-elven


Sep 10 2013, 7:47pm

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I'm in the dark too Bomby... [In reply to] Can't Post


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from Dol Guldar?

...Influencing the Mayor,
or even.. "Poisionin' his Mind?"
Could Alfred
have a
Long-lost
Pallentir?

Bomby Knows Nothing of Thizz...





I haven't followed the speculation or the images that closely - I'm not even sure what Alfred will look like. I'm sure I must have seen some sort of pic but I don't recall it. I have seen the stills of Stephen in costume, and he has a very well-fed, unctuous sort of look to him. If he goes down the path of being actually 'evil' then maybe there is an outside force acting on is weakness of character (Alfred, or as Salmacis thinks maybe the Necromancer, but perhaps anonymously?) But I can also see him existing as a free-standing, self-serving character; who does advance the story a bit as well as giving Laketown some local color and by serving as a contrast to Thorin's more noble end, both having been tainted by the same failing.

It remains to be seen which is the bigger corrupter: the Mayor corrupting his servant, or the servant (as you say) whispering in the Master's ear in Grima style. Not sure if he would warrant any artifacts - maybe some gold greasing his palm, brought by creepy, shadowy folk?

Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply, and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in November. Happy writing!








Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Sep 11 2013, 3:37pm

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The fate of the Master? [In reply to] Can't Post

If Gollum does (as had been once rumored) appear again in the trilogy, I wonder if he is the means to the end of the Master of Esgaroth. We only learn through Tolkien that the Master dies abandoned and alone in the Wilds beyond Lake-town. What if his final vision is of a pair of glowing eyes and long, thin fingers reaching for his throat?

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

 
 

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