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I'm surprised no one commented on this...

Grey Havens

Aug 8 2013, 7:09am

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I'm surprised no one commented on this... [In reply to] Can't Post

I, for one, would love to see a trimmed down version of AUJ, particularly with Azog's role remoeved/marginalized. Though I think this one may go a little to far - no White Council at all, and several cuts of dialogue in the Bag End section...Unsure


Cuts and Additions:
Prologue flashbacks truncated and re-ordered to make
dwarves more sympathetic, and moved to where Bilbo learns the story during the
unexpected party. A few establishing shots are altered to fit the scenes into

Frodo cut

Dwalin/Balin head bump cut

Some extra
shots of dwarves being messy cut

Redundant Thorin & Gandalf dialogue

Gandalf's exposition on Bilbo's thoroughly unremarkable childhood

Thorin & Balin's conversation after "it appears we have lost our
burglar" cut (shot of Thorin reversed so that he is look toward Bilbo instead of

Misty Mountains song uses footage excised from the flashbacks,
converted to slow motion, to create a montage.

Entire Pale Orc
plotline cut--this involved many cuts throughout the movie, starting with the
flashback after Fili and Kili tease Bilbo

The dwarves no longer have a
silly fight scene with the trolls only to throw down their weapons for a
companion they don't even like. Instead, they charge the trolls, and we cut
directly to their cooking over the fire. Clearly the charge was a well-laid
plan. (Finagling the audio for this cut was the biggest pain in the rear for
the edit; I doubled and reversed the battle cry to avoid sounds and music on the
center track.)

Troll banter on seeing Gandalf cut

Radagast stays!
He sets up the Necromancer plot for the next movie. However, his appearance to
Gandalf happens after Rivendell rather than before, and Gandalf is implied to
separate from the dwarves with him. A shot back to the sword helps explain what
Gandalf has just received.

The entire warg chase scene is

Thorin's concern that the elves will stop them cut (but mistrust

Elrond's skepticism concerning the Erebor quest cut

Council removed entirely. Ugh.

Stone Giants cut. Blerg.

down goblin hole made less ridiculous

Goblin King trimmed

single frame of Gollum kept!

Goblin chase scene cut from five minutes to
one. This involved many small cuts.

Many small cuts reduce the Pale Orc
from a nemesis of Thorin's to the Really Angry Orc who pursues them after they
killed the goblin king. The dwarves and Bilbo do not leave the tree once chased
up. The Eagle rescue has also been trimmed; they do not fight the wargs except
to drop a tree on several. Our only explanation for Thorin's KO is that falling
from trees and eagles can be rough on a dwarf; this is the only significant
continuity issue for which I could not find a fix.

Bilbo becoming
accepted as a DwarfBro cut

Erebor mattes replaced to suggest a greater
distance from the mountain--thanks to TM2YC for creating the modified matte I
used for this

Ending credits music modified...

"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort

Subject User Time
An in-depth first look at the AUJ EE contents News from Bree Send a private message to News from Bree Aug 4 2013, 6:59pm
    We wants it, we needs it Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Aug 5 2013, 2:22am
    Sounds great! Bumpypotato Send a private message to Bumpypotato Aug 5 2013, 2:57am
        I'm bmmed about that too Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Aug 5 2013, 5:05am
    I might be able to get a full chapter list with * and ** on extended or additional scenes AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Aug 5 2013, 10:22am
        That would be fantastic Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 5 2013, 10:30am
        Now that would be great... TheHutt Send a private message to TheHutt Aug 5 2013, 11:38am
            The thing is... Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Aug 5 2013, 11:41am
    Fortunately other pages informed me... Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Aug 5 2013, 4:31pm
    Marvellous! Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Aug 5 2013, 6:54pm
        I was hoping they came out with a shorter version... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Aug 6 2013, 1:11am
            Lusitano's Shrunken version Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Aug 6 2013, 2:04pm
                Too late! AlatarVinyamar Send a private message to AlatarVinyamar Aug 7 2013, 10:47am
                    I'm surprised no one commented on this... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Aug 8 2013, 7:09am


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