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The Hobbit - Special Classic Edition

Cavaldi
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Jul 16 2013, 8:30pm

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Unlikely though it seems possible to recut this trilogy to anything classy-like, is there any word on a simplified, single disk "original" version of The Hobbit?


(This post was edited by Cavaldi on Jul 16 2013, 8:37pm)


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Jul 16 2013, 10:17pm

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Hi Cavaldi! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have seen an unofficiatl fan made cut that only includes those things that arein the book, at least is an hour shorter, but Works well. Also they made a short fil getting all Withe Councils stuff and it was cool. I learned to apreciate all cuts, but it was a worthy experience to notice how the film still workedSmile

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deskp
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Jul 17 2013, 3:58am

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Official release? no, i dont think that'll ever happen.

Online fan cut, sure. I hope and think there will be a fancut of all 3 movies to fit the book. Not cause i don't like them but out of interest.


Cavaldi
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Jul 17 2013, 4:26am

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If there is a market for it... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Official release? no, i dont think that'll ever happen.


I don't know... Why not? If it were released after the last extended edition, it would be another edition for the fandom to buy. I bet it would sell good. Especially if it featured additional "unique" footage.


deskp
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Jul 17 2013, 4:30am

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Well yes, but it would need unique footage to fit the book better, No orcs/azog chasing them into the trees for example.

But I don't think this is something PJ would care about.

If they made soemthing like this I would want it at now extra super cost in the EE bluray box set.

3 versions of each film, would certainly be soemthing.


Cavaldi
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Jul 17 2013, 5:03am

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It's not something I expect to happen but it all depends on whether Jackson would like to make such a version, and has the balls to do it.

Would be something if he does.


Noria
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Jul 17 2013, 1:03pm

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Don't think it's likely [In reply to] Can't Post

Im sorry for those who dislike AUJ but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an official cut-down version of AUJ to be released.

I'd be very surprised if Peter Jackson would ever have anything to do with an edited version of his Hobbit movies. All I know of him indicates a director who is secure in his vision and doesn't change anything in the face of criticism, though no doubt he has to bend to the studio sometimes. Almost certainly PJ likes AUJ as it is and as it will be in the expanded version. There will be more, not less in the latter.

There are already going to be two official versions of each movie the TE and the EE in at least two formats, so would Warner Brothers would authorize another at this stage?

The only market for such a thing is disappointed Hobbit novel fans, and there is no way of knowing how many they are and if theyd buy this version. Anecdotal and subjective evidence mean nothing. We just dont know those numbers. We do know how much the existing movie made at the box office and on DVD/Blu-ray.

Im a fan of both The Hobbit and AUJ but not a disappointed one. I like AUJ and have watched the TE DVD a number of times. Im looking forward to the EE and will buy it ASAP. But I have no interest in a cut-down version of AUJ, especially an amateur one.


Darkstone
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Jul 17 2013, 1:20pm

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Not an official one. [In reply to] Can't Post

Doubtless a fan will come out with one. Er, strictly for their own personal use, of course. To post it online for others would be wrong!

You could always do it yourself. I myself edited an "Eowyn Only" cut of LOTR that I use as a personal screensaver.

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dormouse
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Jul 17 2013, 1:20pm

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I think you have the word - unlikely [In reply to] Can't Post

... shading to downright impossible.

And when you think about it, it's hardly fair to expect it really. Whatever any viewer thinks, Peter Jackson has given heart and soul - for how many years is it now? - to adapting The Hobbit for the screen in the way that seems best to him, once (times three) for the screen, once (times three) in extended editions. He has to trust his own judgement and this is his vision. Expecting him to pull apart all that work and cut-and-paste a few bits into something not as good is like going up to an artist and saying 'I like that bit in the middle of your painting - and the tree on the right's very good. Now, will you just cut out all the stuff I don't like and stitch together the bits I do like?' He wouldn't do it - would you?


entmaiden
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Jul 17 2013, 1:22pm

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TMI, Darkstone [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool


Darkstone
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Jul 17 2013, 2:43pm

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Speaking of TMI, there is one Eowyn scene I would die to see. [In reply to] Can't Post

From IMDB trivia:

"A scene was cut from the finished film that showed Eowyn (Miranda Otto) stripping away her regular clothes and then dressing herself in the armor of a Rohan warrior."

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entmaiden
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Jul 17 2013, 3:14pm

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LOL [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't ever change, Darkstone. Smile


Noria
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Jul 17 2013, 6:57pm

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Excellent post Dormouse, as always.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


dormouse
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Jul 17 2013, 7:53pm

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Not as funny as Darkstone's, though! ;-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Cavaldi
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Jul 17 2013, 10:09pm

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If I agreed, I wouldn't have started this thread - would you? [In reply to] Can't Post

There are numerous reasons any creative project can take various guises and no reason why an alternate version would conflict with either the creative integrity of Jackson, or with the studio's interests. Orson Welles made movies he didn't consider to be serious endeavours, to finance those he did. In the same vein, without looking down on one version of a story, a director might tell two versions of it - liking both, but differently. Like parents love their children. And like Tolkien himself kept re-shaping his stories over the years.


AncalagontheBlack
Rohan

Jul 17 2013, 10:22pm

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two versions [In reply to] Can't Post

I think this will be the case but PJ's other version will include even more than the EE. He has made a point, more than once that when he agreed to do the Hobbit, the saw these movies as part of a set including the LotR movies.

I think you will find what you are looking for eventually wish some kind of edited version from a fan that just wanted something only covering the book. There may be one already.

 
 

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