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Indeed - maybe because of the virtual unawareness!!!!

Brethil
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Jul 20 2013, 5:20pm


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Seems like being aware of self and others is a distinction - the authentic pride items are reality based, merit based and aware and cognizant of other peoples perceptions. Whereas the hubristic pride items are more delusional and seeking perhaps to dominate/influence others, based solely on own valuations?


I think that's a good way of putting the idea.
So- Aragorn shows authentic pride (a fair observer would agree with his opinion of his capabilities), whereas Turin is into the hubristic




In contrast Aragorn seems well aware of everyone and their strengths and merits, even more sometimes than they are.

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Subject User Time
Sil discussion of Turin Turambar: Pride Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 14 2013, 3:08pm
    Saeros Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Jul 14 2013, 11:07pm
        True Hamfast - I agree Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 14 2013, 11:33pm
    Pride... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 15 2013, 9:54pm
        Turin in his own world Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 1:05am
        Turin vs cousin Tuor CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 16 2013, 11:08am
            Nice comparison here CG! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 7:23pm
            Turin v Tuor elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 16 2013, 8:45pm
                That's saying a mouthful Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 9:39pm
    I think you're right to point out that he's tone deaf to other people and to the consequences of his actions noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 16 2013, 6:34pm
        That's an interesting thought NoWiz elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 16 2013, 8:50pm
        Nicknames - they do have a pattern don't they? // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 9:31pm
        He seems narcissistic to me CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 16 2013, 9:51pm
    You mean the helm and the bridge are two-edged swords? :) noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 12:03pm
        On the nosey, Furincurunir! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:56pm
    Some thoughts Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 18 2013, 2:31pm
        Hurin vs Morgoth Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 2:00am
            Comments on your comment Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 19 2013, 5:06am
        Two kinds of pride noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 19 2013, 9:25am
            You find the most interesting references... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 20 2013, 4:13pm
                Good way of putting it! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 20 2013, 4:52pm
                    Indeed - maybe because of the virtual unawareness!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 20 2013, 5:20pm

 
 
 

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