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Interesting information found in Bruinen's History of the Hobbit

Brethil
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Jul 25 2013, 3:06am


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The Saga of King Heidrek the Wise is an Icelandic work, translated by C. Tolkien. Among other similarities, it features a cursed sword, Tyrfing.

The parallel between Anglachel and Tyrfing is very interesting. Cursed Tyrfing cannot be sheathed unless blood is drawn...is that why Anglachel is so pleased to war - then it can sleep? And the utterly puzzling question: the cutting of Turin's foot leading to the death of Beleg. Is it a similar curse, and the taste of blood was needed for Anglachel to rest - and that little taste having unintended consequences, for which the sword itself grieves? Here not so much a 'curse' perhaps in the literal sense, unlike Tyrfing, but the shade of Eol in Anglachel.

Might explain that part of the tale of Turin, which on the surface seems a deep herald of meaning. I think that may be it. Cool

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Sil discussion of Turin Turambar: Prophesy and Premonition Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 14 2013, 2:59pm
    Great start - you'll be "Hurin" from me when I've read the chapter! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 14 2013, 5:04pm
        Indeed, "Morwen" you get back Furincurunir! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 15 2013, 12:12am
    Of Turin and warnings CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 15 2013, 1:31pm
        Points in response ... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 1:25am
    On the topic of the curse. Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 15 2013, 2:53pm
        Excellent point Rembrethil! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 15 2013, 7:05pm
            Much thanks! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 15 2013, 9:20pm
                Well CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 15 2013, 9:51pm
                    An Invitation graciuosly accepted. Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 15 2013, 10:07pm
                        Happy to have you around Rembrethil! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 15 2013, 10:41pm
        Superb commentary, Rembreth. Thanks. // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 15 2013, 7:18pm
        I agree... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 15 2013, 10:07pm
            Húrin treats his doom like it's an opponent noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 16 2013, 5:49pm
                Darn, I meant "Turin", not "Hurin"! Sorry! / noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 16 2013, 6:18pm
                    If I'm "Hurin" you correctly, you need to start "Thorin" out your frozen "T" on the keyboard...// Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 9:44pm
                        Are we dragon out the puns again? // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 16 2013, 9:54pm
                            Aman to that...done it once, Anduin it again // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 12:09am
                        Thanks for Beren with my stupid typo… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 6:32am
                            Anyway, everything is Hunky-Dori now.... // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 1:41pm
            Yes, One does wonder how much Morgoth actually has to do… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 16 2013, 9:26pm
                Starting to feel like that's true Furincurunir... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 16 2013, 9:43pm
                    Well, seems a one-off to me CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 17 2013, 10:45am
                        .."how adapted this story was from another source" noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 12:23pm
                            I am assuming elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 17 2013, 1:21pm
                                Correct Elaen Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:33pm
                            See upthread CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 17 2013, 3:24pm
                        Who is messing with Turin Goatsinger? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 12:46pm
                            "Song of Goats" ???? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:35pm
                                Yep, "goat song" is etymologically sound. But I'd have thought… noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 8:24pm
                                    Hmmm. Might hear a lot of thumping, fainting type sounds. // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 18 2013, 3:38am
                            Excellent points here Furincurunir Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:49pm
                                Anglachel, the psychopath with a heart of meteoric iron telain Send a private message to telain Jul 18 2013, 6:51pm
                                    .Sword talk... TORn Amateur Symposium Send a private message to TORn Amateur Symposium Jul 19 2013, 1:32am
                                    Best profile of Anglachel I've read!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 1:47am
                                    Creepy swords CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 20 2013, 6:56pm
                                        It does cut two ways... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 21 2013, 2:22am
                                            Also, ferrophobia? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 21 2013, 5:03pm
                                                Interesting to be "thinking like a sword" in the context of NoWiz's metaphor...// ;-) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 21 2013, 8:25pm
                                                    +Snert!+ elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 21 2013, 9:15pm
                                    Interesting information found in Bruinen's History of the Hobbit Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 3:06am
                        Dragons and curses Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:29pm
                            A thought on the motivations of Dragons Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 17 2013, 6:14pm
                                Oooo - well done!!!! You read my mind Rembrethil! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 6:21pm
                                It's a good question! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 9:06pm
                                    My personal thoughts on Dragons Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 17 2013, 9:58pm
                                        Can't wait to post it BTW!!! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 18 2013, 4:02am
                                        interesting! telain Send a private message to telain Jul 18 2013, 6:21pm
                                            An explanation Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 18 2013, 6:47pm
    Nienor's intuition and suicide CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jul 17 2013, 10:53am
        Niniel's Leap Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 5:52pm
            What if... telain Send a private message to telain Jul 18 2013, 7:06pm
                Well we know you are fun when you post tired...! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 1:55am
                "I told you, man: fight, trust and be full of hope!" Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 19 2013, 4:33pm
                    Love your inversion point here Darkstone Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 5:55pm
        Seems to be a pattern. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 19 2013, 4:41pm
    Finduilas: "She alone stands between thee and thy doom." noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 17 2013, 12:13pm
        Finduilas Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 17 2013, 6:18pm
    I didn't know which post to reply to. Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Jul 17 2013, 11:41pm
        Glad to see you Werde Spinner! Addressing all your great points... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 18 2013, 4:01am
    Well, if i suddenly can post, I might as well have a go at it... sador Send a private message to sador Jul 18 2013, 8:20pm
        Glad to see you Sador! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 2:40am
        Comments on names/words in Tolkien. Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 19 2013, 5:20pm
    This entire thread - and all of the postings - quite impressive ltnjmy Send a private message to ltnjmy Jul 18 2013, 9:21pm
        *waving* Hi! Nice to see you! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 19 2013, 2:44am

 
 
 

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