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I like the idea of opening with Thrain-Map-Key. *book spoiler*

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Jul 9 2013, 2:51pm


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I like the idea of opening with Thrain-Map-Key. *book spoiler* [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems like the prologue to DoS is a perfect place for it (and maybe a quick review of Smaug's desolation could be fit in there - no the audience isn't stupid, but reminding them neatly and cleanly about what the movie is about doesn't hurt). I also think that whatever goes in the intro should set up the audience for the movie to come, and showing the finding of the key and map make the events at the back door of Erebor more of a focus.

I wonder if some elves could be involved in some level of the DG rescue - either being reported to by Gandalf after or helping there in some way? But I don't know about that because of this quote from FOTR: A Journey in the Dark: 'You speak of what you do not know when you liken Moria to the Stronghold of Sauron,' answered Gandalf. 'I alone of you have ever been in the dungeons of the Dark Lord, and only in his older and lesser dwelling in Dol Guldur'. Elves could be met along the way somehow, instead - and games may be played with fighting near DG or even along its walls vs. being in its dungeons, specifically. The only reason I mention elves at all is that having them shown in a helpful light at the beginning could make it all the more dramatic when they don't help Thorin and company later. I also think that the conflict between Thorin and Thranduil should be a pretty important part of DoS so having some hint of it in a prologue again sets the audience up for it. (Maybe the best thing to do is to have the elves refuse to help Gandalf - or refuse to follow him to the shadow of Dol Guldur because "they don't go that way since it is an evil place").

I almost wish that DoS could open with a view of the map turning into a skyview from the Eagles' perspective (that shows the path they must make from where they are to the Lonely Mountain). Since it can't, then it might be important to open with an attention-getter. The threat of Azog and his orcs based on memory from the last movie might not be enough, they may actually need to fight (and maybe at night so that the big bear shows up - and then they can find out later who that is somehow?). Beorn is known to hunt orcs and they are chasing Thorin's company. It isn't exactly what happened in the book but it doesn't seem too much of a stretch to me, at least.

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What's the opening scene of DOS likely to be? thursday_next Send a private message to thursday_next Jul 8 2013, 7:12pm
    I always thought Skaan Send a private message to Skaan Jul 8 2013, 7:25pm
    I predict Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Jul 8 2013, 7:38pm
    Bilbo flashback to the Shire Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 8 2013, 7:39pm
        Would be lovely, but... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jul 8 2013, 8:43pm
        I think that's a pretty good idea angelclaw Send a private message to angelclaw Jul 9 2013, 3:28am
        Do you mean Belladonna and Bungo? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 9 2013, 1:52pm
            Whoops! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 9 2013, 2:44pm
    Smaug's childhood Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jul 8 2013, 8:10pm
        I like that.... thursday_next Send a private message to thursday_next Jul 8 2013, 8:17pm
            Glaurung lol, i had forgotten about him , yes the role model Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jul 8 2013, 9:02pm
        Maybe they'll even show that his father had a drinking problem, his mother abandoned him at an early age Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Jul 8 2013, 8:31pm
            Tolkien did write a backstory... thursday_next Send a private message to thursday_next Jul 8 2013, 9:00pm
                smaug applying suncream! Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jul 8 2013, 9:04pm
    Assuming it's the Thrain prolouge... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jul 8 2013, 9:28pm
        I like the idea of opening with Thrain-Map-Key. *book spoiler* Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Jul 9 2013, 2:51pm
    Dwarves in Battle Suits Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jul 8 2013, 10:42pm
        I'm guessing Thrain gandalf meeting Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 8 2013, 10:53pm

 
 
 

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