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Are you comfortable with Radagast dying?
Poll: Are you comfortable with Radagast dying?
Yes, it explains his absence in LOTR 3 / 4%
Yes, I don't like Radagast 2 / 3%
I don't really care if he lives or dies! 8 / 12%
No, I really like Radagast 17 / 25%
No, it wouldn't be canon (Tolkien never says what happens) 37 / 55%
67 total votes
 

Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Able Seaman


Jul 2 2013, 2:20pm

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Are you comfortable with Radagast dying? Can't Post

Since there has been considerable speculation that the brown wizard may die I thought this poll would be appropriate. So are you comfortable with Radagast dying?


Lothwen
Cabin Boy


Jul 2 2013, 2:25pm

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No, I wouldn't want him to die because [In reply to] Can't Post

He is in LotR; they just left him out the movies.Frown So I voted no, it wouldn't be canon.


Darkstone
Captain


Jul 2 2013, 2:42pm

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Only if he comes back as Radagast the Beige. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


demnation
Rigger

Jul 2 2013, 5:21pm

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

For reasons I can't really explain, this change would bug me more than all the other changes they have mad combined.


JWPlatt
Boatswain


Jul 3 2013, 4:15am

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Poo [In reply to] Can't Post

Not really. But if it gets rid of the walking poo stain on Middle-earth, I guess that's the price we have to pay.


Fredeghar Wayfarer
Able Seaman


Jul 3 2013, 9:42am

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As Lothwen said [In reply to] Can't Post

He is in LOTR, he simply doesn't appear in the movies. On first viewing Fellowship of the Ring, I imagined that Gandalf had sent the moth to bear a message to Radagast, who in turn sent the eagle to rescue him. It was a nice moment that could be interpreted one way by fans who know the lore and another way by fans who only know the movie.

I would be disappointed if Radagast died as it would be a huge contradiction of canon. The movies are already on shaky ground on that front. I also am pretty fond of the character so I wouldn't want to see him turned into cannon fodder for the sake of a dramatic death scene.


arithmancer
Boatswain


Jul 3 2013, 12:31pm

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No, I really like Radagast! *book spoiler* [In reply to] Can't Post

And (with Kili) he is my son's favorite Hobbit character. So I want *one* of those two to make it out of the third film alive!


Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Able Seaman


Jul 3 2013, 5:01pm

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Just to be clear [In reply to] Can't Post

I know that Radagast is in the FotR book, I read it. I meant it explains his absence in the LOTR movies.


RosieLass
Quartermaster


Jul 3 2013, 7:16pm

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No. [In reply to] Can't Post

He doesn't die in the book, and the fact that he doesn't appear in the LOTR movie doesn't need explaining. IMO


malickfan
Gunner


Jul 7 2013, 10:22pm

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What Lothwen said [In reply to] Can't Post

There is no need to kill him off, even if I'm not the biggest Mcoy Fan


FlameOFtheWEST
Swabbie


Jul 8 2013, 1:33pm

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No death [In reply to] Can't Post

Don't think he needs to DIE, but have his part become a little more important please.


dik-dik
Able Seaman


Jul 9 2013, 4:06pm

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I hope Radagast doesn't die... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I kind of like Radagast (I'm missing that option in the poll ;) ), I'm just not too fond of certain things about his characterisation and appearance. But I certainly hope he doesn't die, he's one of the most interesting characters in the movie for me.


Maciliel
Sailing Master


Jul 9 2013, 8:16pm

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hopefully [In reply to] Can't Post

 
hopefully radagast can hire a good janitor to get that guano off of his face.


cheers --

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sevilodorf
Gunner


Jul 10 2013, 3:49pm

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No/ [In reply to] Can't Post

 


cats16
Sailing Master

Jul 11 2013, 12:01am

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I cannot say, yet. [In reply to] Can't Post

We have no confirmed information regarding the circumstances, cause of death, or any hint of plot regarding this (I know some speculate about his staff being in Gandalf's possession in the vlog, but I'm leaving that out now because it's all too uncertain right now).

If it happens, I'll have to do some thinking about it. But until then, I have no good answer here, lol.


angelclaw
Powder Monkey

Jul 14 2013, 5:30pm

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I feel the same [In reply to] Can't Post

I have much less of a problem with PJ & Co. leaving characters out entirely, or killing off their own made-up characters, but to kill a Tolkien character (a wizard, no less!) who should've lived to see the Fourth Age would really irk me.

I bet PJ really wishes he could go back and give Radagast a scene or two in LOTR now that he's become a major character in TH, but I hope he doesn't feel like he has to explain it away by killing him off instead!


dubulous
Rigger

Jul 14 2013, 7:28pm

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I feel fairly indifferent... [In reply to] Can't Post

I think in the movie verse his death would be acceptable because he was never even mentioned in the LOTR movies and therefore needs to be written out in a definitive way by the end of The Hobbit trilogy. Also, even though Radagast doesn't die in the books, it is established at least that the Istari can be killed.


sam90
Able Seaman

Jul 16 2013, 7:44pm

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Of course not! [In reply to] Can't Post

Peter Jackson did a mistake while making LOTR, he should have shooted this little sequence with Gandalf and Radagast. It could have been added to the EE. This was about 2 or 3 minutes top.

So, he decides to put Radagast in The Hobbit, I wasn't not confortable at first with this idea but I came to term with it as long as it was not interfering too much with the story. But Radagast dying? What for? I see no point in doing so. Not only is it completely out of context with regard to Tolkien's work but it has nothing to do with The story of The Hobbit. Radagast does play a role in LOTR! Even if we don't see that in the films. I am increasingly ill at ease with the growing presence of The brown Wizard. If PJ did want him in LOTR, why on Earth does he exploit the character in total contradiction with this tale?

I hope this will remain a rumour and goes no further. I will be very disappointed.


(This post was edited by sam90 on Jul 16 2013, 7:47pm)


Patty
Captain


Jul 18 2013, 11:53am

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My response is a combination of yours, JWPlatt and the one above yours. [In reply to] Can't Post

This change would upset me more than anything. But I wish they would have him come to a council meeting at Rivendell or Lorien and have him take a bath in either the waterfalls (for the strength of the falling water as a cleaner) or a long session in the Anduien to get that crap off. It's distracting.


JWPlatt
Boatswain


Jul 20 2013, 9:13pm

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Capricorn One [In reply to] Can't Post


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...I think in the movie verse his death would be acceptable because he was never even mentioned in the LOTR movies and therefore needs to be written out in a definitive way by the end of The Hobbit trilogy.


So Radagast should retroactively die because Jackson & Co. failed to foresee a need for him in The Lord of the Rings? This is ridiculously akin to the situation in the movie, Capricorn One, where NASA fakes a mission to Mars with three astronauts when they discover just before launch that it won't work. The real unmanned capsule burns up during reentry due to a faulty heat shield. So the government decides to kill the astronauts who are still hidden away on Earth to save face.

Killing off Radagast because of a writers' omission is the same reprehensible situation.

But like I said, killing him off to cure his poo problem is entirely justifiable. Maybe in the fan edit. Wink


(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Jul 20 2013, 9:18pm)

 
 

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