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I can partly predict some box office results for the next hobbit film
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Welsh hero
Gondor


May 26 2013, 4:12pm

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Iron man 3 just beat Return of the king........ [In reply to] Can't Post

Now at $1,142,306,000

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Semper Fi
Rohan

May 26 2013, 6:01pm

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Wow, that number is clearly adjusted to 2003 prices of admission... [In reply to] Can't Post

...not. Tongue

No offense fans but that movie was horrible. I enjoyed the first Iron Man but the second and third were really bad. I watched the third yesterday thanks to good reviews and recommendations and I want my money and time back.


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Welsh hero
Gondor


May 26 2013, 6:29pm

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Well it's hard to adjust world wide ticket prices for inflation [In reply to] Can't Post

Easy to do domestic, but not world wide

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Semper Fi
Rohan

May 26 2013, 6:32pm

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Correct me if I`m wrong [In reply to] Can't Post

But were markets such as China big 10 years ago or not? It kinds doesn`t make sense that China was a big money maker a decade ago since they opened their market in recent years. Same goes for former Eastern Block such as Russia.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


May 26 2013, 6:41pm

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Thor will probably see a 100 million dollar increase due to Avenger reflection, but still not cross the 300 million dollar threshold. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think Desolation will beat it, by virtue of doing as well as or slightly better than An Unexpected. Of course, the Dragon REALLY being in the film could raise that significantly, especially if he is flawlessly done and generates alot of extrafan social hype.

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Is THE franchise of this generation.

Middle-earth isn't (anymore)... and wasn't even before reviews of AUJ were mixed. The recent superhero movies created much bigger hype and media coverage.

As long as DoS does well (around the same numbers as AUJ +/- 100 Mio), that should be enough... I think who expects the numbers of the topselling Marvel franchises will be in for a dissapointment.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

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Welsh hero
Gondor


May 26 2013, 6:51pm

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Usually it's chineese films that did well in China, true [In reply to] Can't Post

Not many Forgein films go big in China even today. Some films are not even released in China

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Kimtc
Rohan


May 26 2013, 6:56pm

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Loki has excellent hair in Thor 2 [In reply to] Can't Post

That would be enough to attract the crowd here (see: threads dedicated to Thorin's hair).


LordotRings93
Rohan


May 26 2013, 7:42pm

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It'll make a billion no doubt [In reply to] Can't Post

If AUJ, with it's mixed reaction from critics, can make it to 1 billion, then DoS will DEFINITELY reach that in a shorter span. Granted, not as fast as Iron Man, but still make more by the end of its run. With AUJ's cliffhanger, people want to see Smaug, and if the advertising campaign is amazing, then no doubt it'll make big money. This is why I hope we get something at Comic-Con in July. It's good publicity and a chance to show new stuff. But seeing as how pickups are going on, PJ and co. probably won't make it. But ya never know, right?

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Arannir
Valinor


May 26 2013, 8:31pm

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Yes... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I also did not mean that every Marvel movie will make it. But in genera the buzz those movies and franchise creates at the moment is much much higher compared to what the Hobbit created, even before AUJ reviews were mixed.



ďA dragon is no idle fancy. Whatever may be his origins, in fact or invention, the dragon in legend is a potent creation of menís imagination, richer in significance than his barrow is in gold.Ē J.R.R. Tolkien

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Elessar
Valinor


May 26 2013, 11:35pm

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Not surprising [In reply to] Can't Post

Marvel is hot and I think things will continue for them for a while. I expect Thor 2 to also crack 1 Billion. Now, I enjoyed Iron Man 3 quite a bit but this is a case where they money doesn't work out to which movie is better. Iron Man 3 could only hope to be as good as Return of the King.



Bombadil
Half-elven


May 27 2013, 2:41pm

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Remember, the Chinese LOVE Dragons!/// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Elessar
Valinor


May 27 2013, 2:57pm

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I expect we will [In reply to] Can't Post

All love dragons by the end of part 2.



Elenorflower
Gondor


May 28 2013, 1:47pm

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good point [In reply to] Can't Post

I do hope they show us Dale, Erebor and eventually Laketown so we can get a sense of the landscape and the towns, and the cultures. Thats what I loved about LOTR the way they set up the differing realms so well. the details of Rohhirim decoration and the architecture of Minas Tirith, its all good stuff.


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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


May 28 2013, 7:00pm

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Lake-town [In reply to] Can't Post


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I do hope they show us Dale, Erebor and eventually Laketown so we can get a sense of the landscape and the towns, and the cultures. Thats what I loved about LOTR the way they set up the differing realms so well. the details of Rohhirim decoration and the architecture of Minas Tirith, its all good stuff.



The company spends a good deal of time in Esgaroth (at least two weeks, in the book) so we should get a pretty good feel for Lake-town by the time that they head up-river to the Lonely Mountain. I doubt that we'll see much of Dale except in flashback. The city is in ruins when Bilbo and the Dwarves pass through and it won't be restored until well after Bilbo returns home. There just isn't much reason to linger there.

I don't think that we will see much of the interior of Erebor (other than Smaug's treasure chamber) until There and Back Again. The same goes for the guardhouse at Ravenhill.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Elenorflower
Gondor


May 28 2013, 8:18pm

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I heard somewhere [In reply to] Can't Post

cant remember exactly where,that they were using the Dale set a lot, or were getting their moneys worth out of it. I presumed they meant that a good section was being filmed in Dale, maybe I am mistaken though, it was ages ago I read this. ((or maybe I just imagined it, it wouldnt be the first time Crazy))


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


May 28 2013, 9:47pm

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Okay, but ruined Dale, or pre-attack Dale? [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that part of the encampment of Men and Elves is in ruins of Dale. That may be where (SPOILER WARNING) Bilbo brings the [redacted] to Bard and the Elvenking {SPOILER ENDS). That might account for what you remember.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Elenorflower
Gondor


May 29 2013, 12:55am

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what accounts for what I remember [In reply to] Can't Post

largely depends on how much chocolate I consumed on the day in question. I could have had a chokky induced dream of Dale for all I know. But I seem to remember it was pre-attack Dale. Crazy

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