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Barrel Escape 'Relatively early' in DOS?

HelmHammerHand
The Shire


May 16 2013, 6:58pm

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Barrel Escape 'Relatively early' in DOS? Can't Post

I have commented before now but this is my first ever post! Smile

Something has been puzzling me for a while now - in one interview (found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1eAWskbUrs) Peter Jackson stated that the barrel escape happens 'relatively early' in DOS and I was wondering how this could be?

There seems to be too much to fit in before the Barrel escape (Beorn, Spiders, introduction of Mirkwood elves etc. not to mention Dol Goldur subplot stuff) for the barrel escape to occur 'relatively early'.

Am I missing something?


jschomburg
Rivendell

May 16 2013, 7:14pm

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Might depend on definition of the term "early". [In reply to] Can't Post

Welcome!

I think I recall that prior to going to 3 films that the barrel scene was to be close to the end of AUJ. If it happens during the first hour of a three hour movie, is that early? I don't know, but maybe. You have a very good point though, lots to cover prior to that scene.


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Arandir
Gondor


May 16 2013, 7:17pm

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I propose a further question to that [In reply to] Can't Post

The 'relatively early' quote has also puzzled me for a while and makes me wonder, in case we actually DO get the barrels sequence within the first hour, how far will DOS further advance the story within the remaining 1.5 to 2 hours - in other words, how much will be included so as to allow enough material for film 3 ... Crazy

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dormouse
Half-elven


May 16 2013, 7:38pm

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Also on the definition of 'relatively'..... [In reply to] Can't Post

Relative to what?


elaen32
Gondor


May 16 2013, 8:10pm

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? The end credits [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry, facetious answer, couldn't resistSmile But you are right of course- PJ has made these vague statements before and I believe this statement was made when they only had a rough cut of DoS. Since it subsequently seems that there may be further additions/flashbacks, the barrells may have been pushed back. My guess is that it will be at about the one hour mark, but that is just a total guess!

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Angharad73
Rohan


May 16 2013, 8:36pm

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Or further to that question... [In reply to] Can't Post

...how much is going to be added, ie. stuff that is not in the book?

I would expect the barrel sequence perhaps around the middle of the movie... Would that still be 'relatively early'? But that depends on what material is added and where it is placed in the movie.


Kangi Ska
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May 16 2013, 9:05pm

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I do agree [In reply to] Can't Post

the escape by barrel will be very near the middle of The Desolation of Smaug.

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The Mitch King
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May 16 2013, 9:54pm

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My guess... [In reply to] Can't Post

...would be that "relatively early" means in the first half of the movie. Just think, the prologue, introducing Beorn, introducing Mirkwood, mirkwood before the spiders, spider fight, where has Gandalf gone off to since Beorn's?, all the elven stuff THEN the barrels. Phew! Looking at this, if the barrels are indeed "relatively early" and I am correct in saying that means the first half of the film then there is no way that DOS will be shorter than AUJ like Boyens said somewhere...


Xanaseb
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May 17 2013, 12:59am

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indeed! [In reply to] Can't Post


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in other words, how much will be included so as to allow enough material for film 3 ... Crazy


This is something I've been wondering ever since seeing the end of AUJ! It's so so much they'll have to cram in in order for TABA to be fine...

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cats16
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May 17 2013, 3:52am

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I keep thinking... [In reply to] Can't Post

that he said in an interview that the barrels sequence would happen within the first hour of the film. I can't trace down a link for it, because there are so many interviews and it would take quite a long time to track down this quote.

But does anyone else remember hearing this quote from PJ? If not, perhaps I'm just hearing things...Blush


Súlimë
Rivendell


May 18 2013, 4:24am

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This is what I thought as well! [In reply to] Can't Post


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...would be that "relatively early" means in the first half of the movie.

Mirkwood is easily my favorite part from the book, so I hope there will be at least an hour of it!


elaen32
Gondor


May 18 2013, 5:51am

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Absolutely agree Sulime! [In reply to] Can't Post


Mirkwood is easily my favorite part from the book, so I hope there will be at least an hour of it!


I love the eeriness and forboding feel- I've always liked creepy forests!. The only part I have had issues with is the "Attercop" section, which I used to find rather silly, but it has grown on me and I now find it charming, even though it breaks the tension somewhat More Mirkwood please (as long as it's done well)!

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TolkienLocked
The Shire


May 19 2013, 11:43pm

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Same here [In reply to] Can't Post

I really hope they include the rhyme that Bilbo says when he's trying to aggravate the spiders, but maybe that's wishful thinking.

 
 

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