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The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Movie Discussion: The Hobbit:
Roac, Carc, and the talking ravens
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IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

May 15 2013, 4:05pm

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Yes indeed [In reply to] Can't Post


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I think the African Grey, in particular, have been shown to actually talk - in the sense of using language to convey meaning, rather than just mimicking. Tolkien's use of talking ravens is almost realistic, much more than the way many of the other animals behave in the books.


Google Alex the African Grey and have some fun. Alex is dead now but he was a brilliant talker. Upwards of a 900 word vocabulary. Einstein at the Knoxville Zoo, also an African Grey is a wonderful talker as well

My black-cap conure has a a vocabulary of 35 words and is easily understood. And crows at least are very intelligent. Now ravens think they are better than crows so one would hope they are also more intelligent with (in Tolkien-s world) language capabilities.


DanielLB
Immortal


May 15 2013, 6:20pm

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One thing we haven't considered in all of this ... [In reply to] Can't Post

The talking purse! A purse could replace a raven quite easily.

TongueLaugh


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


May 15 2013, 9:12pm

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Is the purse worn 'round the neck of a raven? [In reply to] Can't Post


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The talking purse! A purse could replace a raven quite easily.

TongueLaugh



Or perhaps a thrush?

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Bombadil
Half-elven


May 16 2013, 3:47pm

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We already have seen ONE example of this... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Robin of Roshgobel Relates to Radagast
the Spiders Route to Dol Guldur.

This could be what
happens with Bard,
too?

Just a theory from
Bomby

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