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not worried

Grey Havens

May 12 2013, 3:26am

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I'm honestly not worried at all. Yes the TE of AUJ did feel a little bit rushed at the end but I believe that there is such a thing as enjoying the book AND enjoying the movie adaptation even if they don't totally agree.

I first got introduced to LOTR almost six years ago via the extended edition movies, and the current Tolkien books I now currently own:

1. The Lord of the Rings
2. The Hobbit
3. The Silmarillion including the Akallabeth and The Children of Hurin
4. The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
5. The Return of the King Visual Companion

I also own all three LOTR EE's and AUJ both digital and special edition copies, and will purchase the EE for AUJ and the other two both EE's and TE when they come out.

The only one I haven't completely finished is LOTR because I was up to Faramir and Frodo and Sam when AUJ came out and have been pretty absorbed in fanfiction and TORn since then as well as rereading The Hobbit Wink (plus my 1 year old and almost 4 year old and my sword training and archery training have been keeping me very, very busy!)

I honestly believe that if you don't expect perfection from the movies the spirit of Tolkien will still be there (LOVE LOVE LOVE AN UNEXPECTED PARTY AND GOOD MORNING! Very faithful to Tolkien!) and you can enjoy both the movie and the book because the movie enhances the visual aspect of the book and the book's background can enhance one's appreciation of the movie when they know the background stuff that was unspoken.

I liked that in the book Gandalf mimicked the trolls' speech and confused them until dawn, but then again I also love Bilbo stalling them! (favorite humor scene in all four movies I own so far-even the snot, while a bit OTT I love it simply because of Bilbo's earlier mention of needing a handkerchief instead of simply wiping his nose on his sleeve-a lot of good that "handkerchief" from Bofur did him! The look on Bilbo's face could either be "I got caught and I'm frozen" but I honestly think it's "I.am.covered.in.snot!" frozen look-the expression on his face is priceless!)

I think Bilbo's expressions during the troll stalling were great, and the dwarves' reception of Bilbo's Dwarf Cookbook makes me giggle every time (as does their indignant reactions at having parasites- Kili what are you 12?! LOL Sly)

Not a huge fan of Azog being there, however if he wasn't (or at least SOME antagonist) we would have precious little but walking.....walking...riding ponies....rain....walking.....until Gandalf convinced them to go to Rivendell. That cinematically would have been awfully boring. And I like the necromancer subplot even if my fav scenes are with the dwarves simply because it DOES explain a lot about Gandalf's whereabouts during his absent periods and also because DG (while very creepy) will give us something to watch while the dwarves continue walking.....walking.....walking.....whining about the forest.....bombur's nap....walking....walking....Bilbo climbs a tree....walking.....oh hey torches!

So I completely understand from a cinematic POV that seeing nothing but dwarves walking in mirkwood and whining about being hungry for a half an hour of film would get very tedious.

No, I am not anxious. I think that the movies can be very rich cinematically, and the books can be very rich from a literary standpoint. I think that each and every one of us Tolkienites have imagined being a part of ME at one point or another, and the wonderful thing about Tolkien's world is that you can insert an original character in your mind in there and there is so much that can happen whether it coordinates with a Tolkien specific storyline or not. Does Tauriel worry me? A little-I do want her to be an elf not an orc who happens to look like an elf. But does the romantic rumor bother me? Not as much as you would think, because at the very least it can provide my imagination with more expressions on character's faces for the stories I come up with in my head. Tolkien was a creative genius, and while I do agree that he would have people read the source material, I also know that he was constantly tweaking, writing, changing, revising, adding more stories, etc and I think that as long as we don't go too OTT that he would be pleased that his world of ME has made such an impact that people are STILL, 36 years after his death, are enjoying, creating, and expanding the story within their own realm. A creator loves creating, and if he expected us all to just be content to read and not create ourselves, then that would greatly surprise me. I think he finds enjoyment when people read his stories, and he finds enjoyment when people start creating within his world and understand his creation and races and such because then he has been able to continue that creative cycle. He didn't say "no one can ever do anything with Middle-earth again when I die." He gave his literary estate to Christopher his son to continue the legacy, and that's how we got the Silmarillion published. He wanted the creative cycle to continue. As long as stories don't interfere with the morality he set within his story (the insinuation that Aragorn and Arwen had "relations" before the Fellowship left Rivendell- given Arwen's suspiciously see through nightie and Aragorn half dressed and lounging on a chaise- would have angered him because elves were chaste til their marriages and that would go against his morality) and if someone was to, say turn elves as evil as orcs or have orcs making daisy chains, yeah that would probably annoy him. But someone who is true to the nature and spirit of ME would in my mind be allowed the creativity.

The only decision we have to make is whether to be slightly stick-in-the-mud purists (which could make for a boring movie-see "walking" scenario above) or be willing to enjoy both pieces of art for what they are-art.

And I for one intend to enjoy DOS and TABA (of course, sans the sobbing part after BO5A-you all know what I am talking about Wink) as much as I have enjoyed AUJ- whether it runs along the book or not. Because if I want the book, I will read the book. If I want the movie, I watch the movie. Each enhances the other IMHO and there ain't nuthin' wrong with that Cool

Half Elven Daughter of Celethian of the Woodland Realm

Subject User Time
Is anybody else really anxious? FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 May 8 2013, 4:00am
    Reassurance JWPlatt May 8 2013, 4:09am
        A succint summary Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano May 8 2013, 9:57pm
            I'm really fearing the worst at this point. jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey May 10 2013, 10:00am
                DoS gonna need to deliver Dwarvenfury Send a private message to Dwarvenfury May 10 2013, 8:01pm
                Compared to what? I had several SERIOUS problems with several of the decisions made in this first film, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 11 2013, 12:35am
                    Well, I'm glad you can have serious problems with a film, yet still enjoy it. jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey May 11 2013, 4:10am
                        Well. . . even in the book there are things here or their that I don't like. It doesn't change it being AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 11 2013, 5:41am
        Exactly! Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel May 9 2013, 6:49am
    DOS could be the real jewel DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale May 8 2013, 5:28am
    I have faith, but am a little worried demnation Send a private message to demnation May 8 2013, 5:32am
    I'm very anxious too cats16 Send a private message to cats16 May 8 2013, 5:50am
        I agree with you Eruwestial37 Send a private message to Eruwestial37 May 8 2013, 6:56am
            yeah this place can ruin things abit lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 May 8 2013, 7:30am
                I know what you mean. Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela May 8 2013, 4:04pm
                Don't fret Elessar Send a private message to Elessar May 12 2013, 2:54am
    I didn't have a lot of expectation for AUJ Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë May 8 2013, 6:45am
        Yeah, that too Marionette Send a private message to Marionette May 8 2013, 8:17pm
    I am not very anxious about the content... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir May 8 2013, 6:55am
    snce AUJ its been growing on me (spoilers) Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) May 8 2013, 7:43am
    Well, I can't see any point in worrying.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse May 8 2013, 8:09am
    I think your anxieties are valid. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass May 8 2013, 3:59pm
    thanks everyone... FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 May 8 2013, 4:09pm
    Well Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil May 8 2013, 5:44pm
        Spot on The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 8 2013, 5:57pm
            Cheers Master Mitch King// Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil May 8 2013, 6:23pm
    Happy with AUJ but worried about next... Marionette Send a private message to Marionette May 8 2013, 8:10pm
    I am similarly worried Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust May 9 2013, 12:15am
    A little bit Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 May 9 2013, 6:54pm
    You are NOT being paranoid. I share some of your concerns, and like you I greatly enjoyed An Unexpected, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 11 2013, 12:14am
    not worried Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala May 12 2013, 3:26am


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