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The talking purse

Hamfast Gamgee
Gondor

May 2 2013, 9:30am

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I have not yet given up hope on seeing the talking purse in the movies. Sometimes, PJ does change the position of events in the books, eg not having Wrags in Fotr but a big Wrag scene in TTT. So, maybe the talking purse will be in a different place. In the Elvenkings palace maybe? Possibly Beorn will have one. Or in Erebor itself in Smaugs hoard were it will have a nice chat with Bilbo! You never know, their may be dozens of them in Smaugs hoard!


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


May 2 2013, 11:47am

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okay..what the heck is the talking purse?? [In reply to] Can't Post

sorry for my enthusiasmTongue, but I have read the hobbit several times but in Spanish and I have heard this talking purse in this forums soooo many times, that finally I can take no more, would you anyone gently explain me what is it?

THANK YOUWink

The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


May 2 2013, 12:01pm

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... is in the book in the scene with the trolls. bilbo tries to steal it, and the purse itself pipes up and warns the trolls of bilbo's presence.


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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel


DanielLB
Immortal


May 2 2013, 12:21pm

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Here's an excerpt from the book [In reply to] Can't Post


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Bert and Tom went off to the barrel. William was having another drink. Then Bilbo plucked up courage and put his little hand in William's enormous pocket. There was a purse in it, as big as a bag to Bilbo. "Ha!" thought he warming to his new work as he lifted it carefully out, "this is a beginning!"

It was! Trolls' purses are the mischief, and this was no exception."'Ere, 'oo are you?" it squeaked, as it left the pocket; and William turned round at once and grabbed Bilbo by the neck, before he could duck behind the tree.

"Blimey, Bert, look what I've copped!" said William.


A most pivotal scene in the entire story. I wouldn't want it at Erebor. It's either in the Troll scene, or not at all.

Angelic


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


May 2 2013, 12:23pm

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Thanks Maciliel and Daniel LB, now I can go in peace for some siestaTongue

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Arannir
Valinor

May 2 2013, 2:14pm

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I so hope they leave it out. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


RosieLass
Valinor


May 2 2013, 3:47pm

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Maybe it could be one of the toys made by the Dale toymakers! [In reply to] Can't Post

I admit, I was a little disappointed that they didn't have Bilbo try to pick Bill Huggins' (?) pocket. Cool

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There&ThereAgain
Rohan


May 2 2013, 7:22pm

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I'm just glad there was no purse [In reply to] Can't Post

Otherwise I was going to have to pay you 50 bucks!

Although who knows there might be a flashback to it in part 2 or 3! Crazy

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Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


May 3 2013, 1:29am

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I wouldn't have minded the talking purse despite what others have said in the past. But it has to be with the trolls or not at all. It just wouldn't be right if it were in a different place.


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


May 3 2013, 2:43am

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I just had a horrible vision... [In reply to] Can't Post

of a row of talking purses all singing "It's a Small World After All". Crazy

'"Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!" he said to himself, and it became a favourite saying of his later, and passed into a proverb.'


There&ThereAgain
Rohan


May 3 2013, 4:59am

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but with the accent! [In reply to] Can't Post

 
"Urt's r smwall urld at-tr all!"

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien

"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


May 3 2013, 5:14am

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Perfect! Cockney accent and all :)

'"Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!" he said to himself, and it became a favourite saying of his later, and passed into a proverb.'


Salmacis81
Grey Havens


May 3 2013, 4:03pm

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I read LOTR before The Hobbit, and the talking purse was one of those silly fairy-tale elements in The Hobbit that made me roll my eyes (others being the singing of the Rivendell elves and the "attercop" business in Mirkwood). I'm glad they left it out for the film, but some of the changes to "Roast Mutton" were a little unbelievable, like the dwarves allowing themselves to be tied up.


There&ThereAgain
Rohan


May 3 2013, 5:19pm

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allowing to be tied up [In reply to] Can't Post

Is a classic story move, the heros letting themselves in the grasp of the villian on behalf of the one in trouble thus allowing Bilbo to feel worse, but giving him an opportunity to redeem himself.

It worked fine for me. Blush

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien

"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas


MaeBeth
Bree

May 3 2013, 6:38pm

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I know right? [In reply to] Can't Post

That part in the book makes me laugh every time! I was so hoping to see it with the trolls, but just to hear it speak would make my year.
I'd love to see my sister's faceEvil
Thinking about it is going to make me laugh so hard, I might fall outta my seat! Please excuse me while I try to miss the desk, thanks & have a lovely weekend!Heart

 
 

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