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anyone noticed the orc tauriel was tormenting?


Apr 11 2013, 9:42am

Post #1 of 19 (1584 views)
anyone noticed the orc tauriel was tormenting? Can't Post

hey guys
after watching the desolation of smaug live event, the scene where tauriel torments the orc saying "you like killing things!", really got me thinking. who is she yelling at and why does legolas seem to be holding it quite gently...Unsure
anyway, at first i thought it might have been fimbul the hunter, who is yet to have his appearnece in the film.
but then i analised it more properly and took some screenshots of it and noticed that this orc looked like another one. it goes by the name of Narzug, and is officially cast in the next two installments. what made me so certain that it is him, is because games workshop released a minature of him, which i have attached.
looking at the two pictures, it is obvious that the white painting is on the orcs, and they are both dark skinned which further pushes my point. anyway what do you think? and why is Legolas so gentle towards him!!!Unimpressed

sorry for bad quality of attacment, cant put up a good pic

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Apr 11 2013, 9:53am

Post #2 of 19 (910 views)
Yes, see these threads: [In reply to] Can't Post

We discussed this a few days ago here ,

and for a laugh (I hope). go here .

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Apr 11 2013, 10:05am

Post #3 of 19 (761 views)
thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

lol that just answers my question
and yes the pic is quite amusing Laugh

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Apr 11 2013, 11:06am

Post #4 of 19 (770 views)
Most movies... [In reply to] Can't Post

Even the good ones, have at least one "cringe line". Tauriel of course takes the prize for "cringe line of the year" if it truely makes it into the film that is...

"You like killing? Let me give it to you!"

I mean my goodness, haha.

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Apr 11 2013, 11:18am

Post #5 of 19 (764 views)
Fimbul [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To
at first i thought it might have been fimbul the hunter, who is yet to have his appearnece in the film.

Fimbul is seen along Yazneg when they first spot the dwarves, he is also seen a fair bit on weathertop.

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Apr 11 2013, 11:28am

Post #6 of 19 (734 views)
He's also seen standing with Azog, [In reply to] Can't Post

when the eagles fly away with the dwarves

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Apr 11 2013, 11:41am

Post #7 of 19 (722 views)
Maybe... [In reply to] Can't Post

They are playing good cop bad cop.Wink


Apr 11 2013, 12:13pm

Post #8 of 19 (717 views)
I thought to have noticed a general accent... [In reply to] Can't Post

... in Lilly's voice for Tauriel.

The line may sound different if Tauriel does speak Westron with a strong accent in general.


Apr 11 2013, 2:55pm

Post #9 of 19 (675 views)
Didn't notice it and don't want to [In reply to] Can't Post

The less I see of the made-up Tauriel, the better. Mad


Apr 11 2013, 3:44pm

Post #10 of 19 (629 views)
Agree [In reply to] Can't Post

I am seeing too much about Tauril involved and changing stuff

Hope they don´t ruin what this first movie is and turn The Hobbit into a fanfic

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Apr 11 2013, 4:49pm

Post #11 of 19 (599 views)
Yes, that is my concern [In reply to] Can't Post

I would hate to see the next two films deteriorate into something superficial aimed basically at the OMG teens.


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Apr 11 2013, 5:10pm

Post #12 of 19 (586 views)
oh ye of little faith! [In reply to] Can't Post

I guess I'm one of the few who trusts PJ's decisions in the overall picture. Although sure, there are things I personally don't care much for in ALL of the films including LOTR, I would hope he would make the film he wants to make - his own vision. Which I think he has done up to this point. I don't believe he has or ever will cater to specific groups. Thank goodness!

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Apr 11 2013, 5:30pm

Post #13 of 19 (561 views)
I am with you... [In reply to] Can't Post

I am glad Peter Jackson and Co are making the films 'they' envisioned...going by the first film, I have no major issues with any of the additions and subtractions...in fact, I'm looking for more additions in the inevitable extended editions.



Apr 11 2013, 5:38pm

Post #14 of 19 (561 views)
I have no major issues, either [In reply to] Can't Post

So far. Wink


Apr 11 2013, 6:26pm

Post #15 of 19 (541 views)
Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

I just don't need to see Tauriel much to be satisfied that they at least had a speaking role for another actress. The adaptation of a story around the character is probably blown out of proportion by Internet babble, but five minutes of screen time would be fine, total.

Honestly, the whole torturing/interrogating this orc and that bothers me. While it undoubtedly happened in Tolkiens' world, it's best left to to the imagination. The filmmakers are overlaying modernisms onto what is a mythology with its own cultural references. I wouldn't doubt that Elves hates orcs, we just don't need to see it on screen. It's cheap thrills for those that get off on violence.


Apr 11 2013, 9:33pm

Post #16 of 19 (479 views)
Well we haven't seen [In reply to] Can't Post

the whole scene yet. It could turn out better than what we anticipate.(like most things that PJ makesLaugh)


Apr 12 2013, 1:42am

Post #17 of 19 (432 views)
Vampires are in after all [In reply to] Can't Post

judging by your footer image, Tauriel will do double duty as Captain of the Guard and as one of Tolkien's elusive vampires.


Apr 12 2013, 9:37am

Post #18 of 19 (393 views)
I haven't noticed... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but I must say I am quite disturbed at the very idea of any Elf of Tolkien's world torturing anyone, for information or not. Intimidation is one thing, like Gandalf did with Gollum, but torment...? I thought only the rowdier types like perhaps Beorn would do anything like that. Unsure I'm not liking what I hear about this scene at all.

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Apr 12 2013, 10:28pm

Post #19 of 19 (369 views)
I don't think there will be torture involved [In reply to] Can't Post

At least, there isn't any evidence for it yet. All we know is that the Elves capture an Orc and presumably question him for information.

Although, a separate scene in the DoS preview involves an angry Legolas saying to Thranduil something like "There was more that the Orc could have told us" (I don't remember the exact wording.) So is it implied that Thranduil has the Orc executed? Unsure

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