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Will they remove "60 years earlier" in the SEE?

TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 9 2013, 9:08am

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Will they remove "60 years earlier" in the SEE? Can't Post

After all, they did remove "The Shire... 60 years later" on FOTR SEE, which was a quite good thing, as these kind of location intertitles do not really fit into Middle-Earth.

It would only be consequent to do the same for TH:AUJ SEE...


Arannir
Valinor

Apr 9 2013, 9:48am

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We never had a similar time jump in LotR... [In reply to] Can't Post

... so I do not think this would be consequent.

I agree that an intertitle is not necessary between prologue and the actual story - but since we have the prologue in the prologue thing plus an audience that might be interested how much earlier this story is set compared to LotR, I would prefer leaving it in.


MorgolKing
Rivendell

Apr 9 2013, 1:10pm

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When was that? [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't remember a "The Shire...60 years later" in the FoTR..????


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Apr 9 2013, 1:12pm

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It was in the cinema, [In reply to] Can't Post

when we jump from the prologue over to the picture of Frodo reading the book I think.

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Apr 9 2013, 2:50pm

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If i were a betting man, [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd say that they get rid of it (which would be my preference, too). The people who buy the EEs don't need it, and it somewhat lessens the impact of the Old Bilbo/Young Bilbo reveal. Though i don't suppose it makes much difference either way.


Old Toby
Grey Havens


Apr 9 2013, 3:36pm

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I don't see how it makes any difference [In reply to] Can't Post

Personally I really liked how they added that notation in the film, as did others, especially those who had never read the book nor been acquainted with Tolkien's world previously. I thought it really gave the audience a lot better understanding on the time-frame involved in the story.

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DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 9 2013, 3:46pm

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If I remember rightly ... [In reply to] Can't Post

The subtitle "60 years later" was removed for the EE because PJ felt the fans buying the EE wouldn't need to be told how many years had passed. Or something like that.

I'd fully expect them to do the same.


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Apr 9 2013, 9:26pm

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3d [In reply to] Can't Post

but do we know if the EE will be 3d, does anyone know yet?

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Apr 9 2013, 9:42pm

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most likely, [In reply to] Can't Post

as everything is filmed in 3D, I see no point in excluding 3D versions of the Extended Cut

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jimmyfenn
Rohan


Apr 9 2013, 10:08pm

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hope se [In reply to] Can't Post

yeah its all filmed in 3d, but they wont just do all the cgi on all the3d footage just in case they use it for the EE, so im concerned that for simplicity and saving time and money, that it wont happen, im looking forward to an official announcement with baited breath!

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Apr 9 2013, 10:27pm

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ah, didn't think of that! [In reply to] Can't Post

But for me it doesn't matter, as I only want the 2D version anyway, so I'm safe Cool

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Apr 9 2013, 11:08pm

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Also... [In reply to] Can't Post

if the extra material is enough to require a second disc (as was the case with the LotR EE dvds), then that would mean four discs for the AUJ EE 3d blu-ray. Just something to consider.


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Apr 10 2013, 7:29am

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2D only for me, too... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm not concerned as long as there will still be a choice of both formats available . If it's going to be 3D only then I will be really narked... Frown


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deskp
Lorien


Apr 10 2013, 10:27am

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silly [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd prefere the whole old Bilo + Frodo was cut from the movie. It does not support the 'watch all 6 in chronological order' notion.

In the context of continuity the Old bilbo is a flash forward.

Atleast thats how I see it,
tho technically the whole of the hobbit is a flash back.. Having a whole trilogy be a flashback sounds rather absurd


TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 10 2013, 10:45am

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3D [In reply to] Can't Post

According to the BluRay specs, you cannot have a 3D BluRay only, without a 2D version included. This must be either supplied on an extra disc or it must be selectable from the 3D BluRay menu (mind that 3D BluRay video is in fact a flat 2D video + additional delta information stream for the other eye).

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Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Apr 10 2013, 12:10pm

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Okay, well that's cool, then... Thanks! :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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(This post was edited by Eleniel on Apr 10 2013, 12:11pm)


ByThorinsBeard
Rohan


Apr 10 2013, 6:26pm

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Same here [In reply to] Can't Post

Content with 2D...

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AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 10 2013, 8:39pm

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Agreed. We take a lot for granted as the knowlegeable about these stories. [In reply to] Can't Post

Lay viewers are aided by the points of refference.

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Personally I really liked how they added that notation in the film, as did others, especially those who had never read the book nor been acquainted with Tolkien's world previously. I thought it really gave the audience a lot better understanding on the time-frame involved in the story.


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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Apr 10 2013, 8:47pm

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Yeah, it should have been in the TE, [In reply to] Can't Post

but i wouldn't call the people who are going to buy the EEs lay viewers.


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 10 2013, 9:23pm

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Yet they may show it to lay viewers at gatherings etc, so [In reply to] Can't Post

better to avoid confusion.

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but i wouldn't call the people who are going to buy the EEs lay viewers.


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