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Dwarven Archery
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Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 23 2013, 4:54pm

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Bows and horses [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes I've tried it too - you really have to sort of pour your entire seat into the inner knees while you shoot. Absolutely harder than it looks! Fun though, I wish I had more horsey access to play around, but just too busy. Plus unless its on a friend's horse people look a bit askance at the weapon.......haha!

Hell hath no fury like a Dragon who is missing a cup.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Mar 23 2013, 5:21pm

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... and I always wondered about Legolas.... [In reply to] Can't Post

...leaving a perfectly good saddle lying on the Plains of Rohan ("I need them not...") along with the bridle.

I seem to remember the Mongols inventing the stirrup FOR ARCHERS...

...so they could stand up off the bumpity bump of a moving horse and shoot. Darn Elves must have lower spines made of rubber.

And how he ever survived a chainmail axe-wielding Dwarf bouncing at his back while riding a bareback horse is beyond me. Every time I've done it (had a rider behind, bareback)(without even chainmail)(or axes) I end up perched on that Mount Everest bit of anatomy called the withers...

fortunately for Orlando Bloom, they didn't follow bookverse.

Go outside and play...


Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 23 2013, 6:47pm

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Ha! The rumble seat! [In reply to] Can't Post

and being on the withers with short legs is a rough and perhaps short lived ride too! My Cherokee ancestors used to ride in hanging off the sides to look like horses with no riders - that's a trick I'd love to try too!

I dunno, if we could get a couple thousand years to practice I guess we could improve! Wink Be awfully fun to try!

Hell hath no fury like a Dragon who is missing a cup.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Mar 26 2013, 4:16am

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a few short generations of horsemanship... [In reply to] Can't Post

Native Americans took to the Horse and developed horsemanship into an art in an amazingly short time (before their way of life was irrevocably changed)... I seem to remember that sometimes they braided loops in the manes to help with that hanging off the side thing.

There are natural braids that develop in horses' manes (wind, head tossing, the texture of horsehair). They are quite fine and intricate, and look like they were made by... Elves. There are legends associated with the braids: depending on where the legend originated, it is either witches or Elves who ride the horses at night, braiding the loops in the mane...

Go outside and play...


Brethil
Half-elven


Mar 26 2013, 2:46pm

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Braided manes [In reply to] Can't Post

Beautiful point about the legends about who rides at night..........what an evocative image.

Indeed many of the Mongol/Eurasian steppe peoples had amazing horse culture, and the people that came over the land bridge seems adapted quickly when horses were presented.

Hell hath no fury like a Dragon who is missing a cup.


kingfisher
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Jan 3 2014, 6:49pm

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Speculations on Kili's bow and his weapons [In reply to] Can't Post

For those who are interested, I wrote a short essay on Kili's bow and his other weapons, including speculations on their form and function. References are drawn from The Hobbit: AUJ, tie-ins and supporting materials: http://thorinoakenshield.net/...adly-at-every-range/

As far as I can say, in his role as one of the scouts of Thorin Oakenshield's Company, it's not too far-fetched that Kili uses a bow as his primary weapon, even if the axe might be a dwarf's signature weapon.

But as we have seen in DOS now, they didn't even show us the bow Thorin gets later on - maybe in the Extended Edition, so archery doesn't seem to be a main focal point.

Cheers,
kingfisher

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