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i think bifur is "talking" about the key and the door

Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Mar 20 2013, 11:26am

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i think bifur is "talking" about the key and the door Can't Post

 
during the unexpected party, after gandalf has given thorin the key, the table errupts into discord.

bifur is seen doing something with his hands.

i believe he is pantomiming inserting the key in the door, and manipulating it.

cheers --


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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel

(This post was edited by Maciliel on Mar 20 2013, 11:28am)


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Mar 20 2013, 2:12pm

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Well alrighty then! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks Mac now I need to go rewatch it! I love Bifur and his gestures!

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


QuackingTroll
Valinor


Mar 20 2013, 4:43pm

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I noticed this and thought he might be talking about a wind-up toy [In reply to] Can't Post

but the key makes more sense. Maybe he'll have a role to play when they get to the lock. Perhaps it'll be jammed and his toy-making skills help un-jam it. Smile


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Mar 20 2013, 5:18pm

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he could have also [In reply to] Can't Post

 
bifur could have also been describing what he was going to do with smaug's jaxsie.

cheers --

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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Mar 20 2013, 5:49pm

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ha! [In reply to] Can't Post

:)

Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Mar 20 2013, 6:45pm

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So why did the start fighting? [In reply to] Can't Post

I never noticed this in the theater, but it jumped out at me last night. I can't figure it out.


DanielLB
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Mar 20 2013, 6:49pm

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You must have missed the thread the other day: [In reply to] Can't Post

Link.

Cool


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Mar 20 2013, 7:08pm

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Huh... it seems i did. [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought i'd been keeping up. Thanks!


(This post was edited by sauget.diblosio on Mar 20 2013, 7:09pm)


lurtz2010
Rohan

Mar 20 2013, 8:35pm

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hes showing Bilbo getting hurt/killed in the wild [In reply to] Can't Post

His fingers are bilbo walking then he shows him being snapped in half then both halves getting screwed together.


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Mar 20 2013, 8:44pm

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That's it exactly! [In reply to] Can't Post

Perfect interpretation! Seeing how they're talking about dragons, perhaps it's Bilbo getting snapped in half by Smaug?

'"Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!" he said to himself, and it became a favourite saying of his later, and passed into a proverb.'


WhiskFishercat
Bree


Mar 21 2013, 12:07am

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the toy... [In reply to] Can't Post

I remember seeing Bifur with a windup toy in the trailer (i think inside the goblin cave?), but I dont remember seeing this in the movie...i wonder if this scene is in the EE, or maybe its a scene from DoS?


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Mar 21 2013, 12:18am

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this is what... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Perfect interpretation! Seeing how they're talking about dragons, perhaps it's Bilbo getting snapped in half by Smaug?


"this is what smaug is going to do with bilbo's jaxsie..."


cheers --

.


aka. fili orc-enshield
+++++++++++++++++++
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel


DanielLB
Immortal


Mar 21 2013, 10:03am

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Here's the screencap: [In reply to] Can't Post

Link.

It's definitely while the Company are resting on the Goblin's front porch. Bilbo has obviously spotted something, perhaps a black crack and eyes peering through (as in the book). He doesn't look very concerned in the film though. Perhaps this is an alternative scene to the final one.

 
 

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