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Not to deny Darkstone's awesomeness

FarFromHome
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Dec 18 2007, 7:55pm


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Not to deny Darkstone's awesomeness [In reply to] Can't Post

but I don't think his "astounding logical efforts" are above and beyond what the filmmakers were actually doing. Darkstone's exceedingly good at figuring out the parallels and patterns that link the movies to the book, but I don't think he's making them up. The complex interweaving of ideas and imagery between the films and the book seems to become more impressive the more you look at it.

...and the sails were drawn up, and the wind blew,
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth;
and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore
glimmered and was lost.

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Six years ago.... weaver Send a private message to weaver Dec 14 2007, 4:12pm
    Hmm... DunedainRonin Send a private message to DunedainRonin Dec 14 2007, 4:44pm
        Oh, yes, definitely entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 14 2007, 5:29pm
    Loved the Woody Allen reference ... Elven Send a private message to Elven Dec 14 2007, 5:08pm
    It's been six years?!?! Lily Fairbairn Send a private message to Lily Fairbairn Dec 14 2007, 6:29pm
        It kind of makes me think about... Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 14 2007, 6:34pm
            Ebert said that the film of FotR was less than the book. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 14 2007, 6:43pm
                I was referring to his comment here... Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 14 2007, 6:51pm
                    Critics....*sigh* stormcrow20 Send a private message to stormcrow20 Dec 15 2007, 5:37am
                        Hee hee Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Dec 17 2007, 3:06am
                            Thanks, glad it gave you a giggle! :-D // stormcrow20 Send a private message to stormcrow20 Dec 18 2007, 8:11am
                Yes, but... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Dec 15 2007, 9:51am
                    "the battles seemed to surprise him" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2007, 2:53am
                        No. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Dec 16 2007, 7:15am
                            "a well-crafted and sometimes stirring adventure" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2007, 7:42am
                                I've always suspected entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 16 2007, 3:02pm
                                    I doubt it. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2007, 4:50pm
                                        All that means entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 16 2007, 5:13pm
                                            Transcript of Ebert/Roeper review, and link to video of their comments. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 16 2007, 10:30pm
                                                They made Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Dec 16 2007, 11:37pm
                                                    Three stars. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 12:07am
                                                I remembered much of that entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 12:26am
                                                    "In The Hobbit, the hobbits are clearly the only heroes" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 12:56am
                                                        I'm not sure why we're in this argument entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 1:48am
                                                            "it *seemed* to him that he saw"... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 1:52am
                                                                No, not uncomfortable, just bewildered entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:04am
                                            wow vtboyarc Send a private message to vtboyarc Dec 17 2007, 12:15am
                            That's my problem, too, Silverlode... Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 16 2007, 8:38pm
            Roeper changed his mind about FOTR frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Dec 17 2007, 12:58am
                "He can say 'Aragorn slew many orcs'. But you have to show that onscreen." N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 1:14am
                    True, but... frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Dec 17 2007, 1:46am
                        "More quiet and less action". N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 1:49am
                            The best that can be done frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Dec 17 2007, 1:55am
                            How would you have shown Helm's Deep, entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:07am
                                Cut them entirely, in favor of... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 2:36am
                                    I think it's a question of balance entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:50am
                                    Danged if you do, danged if you don't. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Dec 17 2007, 9:54pm
                                        Nice to have you back. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 18 2007, 12:18am
                                            I doubt it. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Dec 18 2007, 3:12am
                                                I understand. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 18 2007, 3:45am
                                                    Lotsa moments like that Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Dec 18 2007, 4:17am
                                            Thanks! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Dec 18 2007, 3:49am
                                                ZZZ. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 18 2007, 3:57am
                                                    Cause it's in the book. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Dec 18 2007, 4:30am
                                                        I am in awe... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 18 2007, 4:39am
                                                            Not to deny Darkstone's awesomeness FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Dec 18 2007, 7:55pm
                                        Darkstone, I love you. Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 18 2007, 4:25am
                Roeper realized the train was leaving the station entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 1:52am
                    Yes, I'd say that was a perfect description of what happened. Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 2:48am
                        Remember how entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:52am
                            I do distinctly remember Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 3:19am
                                Do you love "Ben Hur"? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 3:26am
                                    I did love Ben Hur, yes...until Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 3:48am
                                        Have you ever seen/read "The Celluloid Closet"? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 4:13am
                                    Where are you getting that from? frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Dec 17 2007, 4:06am
                                        "Anatomy of a Murder", "Fires on the Plain", "Floating Weeds", "The Four Hundred Blows"... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 4:22am
                                            Er... aren't we discussing LOTR? frodolives Send a private message to frodolives Dec 17 2007, 4:25am
                                                Ha! Only sometimes. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 4:49am
                                                    Finding Nemo? Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 4:56am
                                                        "Mine!" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 5:07am
                                                            I love Finding Nemo too Owlyross Send a private message to Owlyross Dec 18 2007, 10:17am
                                    Of course! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Dec 17 2007, 10:44pm
                                *Yawn*. Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Dec 17 2007, 4:45am
                                    Sergei Bondarchuk's 1967 "War and Peace" just showed here. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 5:04am
                                        Dangit. Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Dec 17 2007, 6:34am
                        Tolkien was a critic. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 17 2007, 3:19am
    "Ocean's Eleven" wasn't a disaster. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 14 2007, 6:41pm
        Sauron vs. The Wicked Witch of the West squire Send a private message to squire Dec 15 2007, 2:32am
            I'm not so sure. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Dec 15 2007, 7:58am
                You're probably right. He never once says "my pretty" in this scene: squire Send a private message to squire Dec 15 2007, 2:18pm
                    Jawohl, mein Herr! dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Dec 15 2007, 5:07pm
                    Ach, who needs alternate realities Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Dec 15 2007, 8:04pm
                "a vulgar and ignorant little cad" dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Dec 15 2007, 4:28pm
    thanks, weaver... Nuradar Send a private message to Nuradar Dec 14 2007, 6:58pm
    I remember Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Dec 14 2007, 7:24pm
    Sorry, weaver, we seem to have completely hijacked your thread entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 3:00am
        I still haven't seen that flipping car. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Dec 17 2007, 7:13am
            have you seen this web page? Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Dec 17 2007, 2:15pm
            Most of what you see entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:52pm
        Not to worry... weaver Send a private message to weaver Dec 17 2007, 2:25pm
    Great thread, and now I'm curious to know about FIVE years ago... Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Dec 17 2007, 3:29am
        We had a preview in March. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 4:12am
            Indeed it was a spectacular ride... Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 5:08am
                I remember that entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:55pm
            I remember the fury on the discussion boards Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Dec 17 2007, 7:29am
                And as for me.... Sunflower Send a private message to Sunflower Dec 17 2007, 8:26am
                    Thanks. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Dec 18 2007, 3:12am
                Wasn't that ROTK entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Dec 17 2007, 2:57pm
                    Don't you just love internet scuttlebutt? Patty Send a private message to Patty Dec 17 2007, 4:31pm
        well... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Dec 17 2007, 4:50am

 
 
 

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