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It would make sense to go back and play tourist

CuriousG
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Mar 13 2013, 12:58am


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If the Valar are going to create the Calacirya just so the Elves in Valinor can get a look at the stars, and if the Teleri remain in the twilight because they like it so much, you'd think they would want to make jaunts to Middle-earth, which is the land of their awakening--aren't they nostalgic? So, do you think the Valar forbade it, or didn't suggest it, or no one thought to ask? Were the Valar afraid that the Elves would leave and not come back? The last part is what I think. Maybe tricky Ulmo or Osse would get their boat stuck on the far shore again in another "accident" and leave them there.

The abandonment of the Moriquendi does seem a little hard to fathom since the Valar mostly stayed out of Middle-earth until they were ready to wrest it back from Melkor. Okay, it's been wrested, so why aren't they frolicking all over it? For that matter, why don't the Valar create a new Valinor in Middle-earth, and why do they stay on their island? There are empires where the ruler had multiple residences that they moved between periodically, so why not the Valar?

But other than where they live, one wonders how the Valar treated the Moriquendi. The Avari rejected their summons altogether, but the other groups just lagged behind and didn't do anything wrong. Does Orome visit them? Does anyone go to teach them? Are there other beings like Melian roaming the world that come across them and make them better? There don't seem to be, given how the Elves later come to Beleriand to find sanctuary from the wilderness. Why they are neglected is hard to figure out.

On the other hand, it was Ulmo who said none of the Elves should be brought to Valinor but should be left in M-E to make it better. But did they? Not by much, it seems to me, so he may have been proven wrong. Thranduil's realm was fine, but was it great? And Lorien wouldn't be as exalted as it was without a Noldorin ruler with a Noldorin Ring, so it seems the Moriquendi didn't do as much growing as the Valinor Elves did.

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the fallibility of the valar Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 11 2013, 11:33am
    Plenty fallible CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 11 2013, 11:57pm
        mae govannen, curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 12 2013, 1:25am
            It would make sense to go back and play tourist CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 13 2013, 12:58am

 
 
 

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