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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Tol Eressea
Mar 15, 4:32am
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I think the genealogy change is purely a rhythm thing
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Also, has anyone noticed that the film changes Bilbo's geneaology? We hear this: Gandalf: "You are also a Took. Did you know that your great-great-great-great-uncle, Bullroarer Took, was so large he could ride a real horse?" In the book, Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took was only Bilbo's great-great-great-uncle (i.e., brother of his great-great-grandfather).
I watched that today, and I think this change is purely because four "great"s fits the rhythm of the scene better than three. Indeed, I wouldn't at all be surprised if it was an improvisation of Sir Ian McKellen. It just works better.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
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Are Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur are related to Thorin in the film?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 12:32am
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I took that line, "your kin"
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 12:56am
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Got this from this site
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Salmacis81
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Mar 6, 1:11am
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They are definitely not related
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 1:30am
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every dwarf except bifur, bofur, bomber is in some way related to thorin
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Maciliel
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Mar 6, 1:49am
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And we should trust the companion book instead of the film itself? //
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:23am
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I think we trust them together
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 5:46am
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Is a film viewer who has not read that book wrong to believe they are related?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:36pm
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Not wrong, but most probably don't care
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 5:33pm
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From a screenwriter's perspective, it also could be that "kin"
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 5:57pm
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Kin
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arithmancer
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Mar 6, 6:41pm
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very true
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Cirashala
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Mar 6, 9:26pm
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As for Bilbo's geneaology, I doubt it matters that much. Slip of the tongue by Gandy maybe. Nitpicking, IMHO. //
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macfalk
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Mar 6, 7:41am
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"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:55pm
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Related or not, did all the dwarves know one another before the quest?
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 11:59am
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How far do you want to go back?
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stoutfiles
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Mar 6, 4:31pm
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Do Gandalf and Thorin understand "your kin" to mean "all dwarves"?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:45pm
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I think the genealogy change is purely a rhythm thing
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 15, 4:32am
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