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Oscars tonight!
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Sunflower
Valinor

Feb 25 2013, 7:21am

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Les Miz got Make-up, I mean, the realism there mostly came from the leads starving themselves.Tongue No matter what you do with a production team, nothing could beat Hugh and Anne's emaciation. And in Hugh's case, of course it was only in his early scenes--he returned to proper weight after that. Costumes, yes..lots of period detail. Maybe too much at times--you can't fault Hooper for not being true to the book!

I'm not surprised Pi got FX. I was, for the first time in my life, totally fooled by an FX. I honest to God thought that tiger was real, and wondered where they got such a great trainer. I was truly flabbergasted to find out that it was CG.
Sad note: the company that produced that tiger and FX, is a tiny company--forget its name-has just filed for bankrupcy a couple weeks ago and just laid off about 40% of its staff. Someone had to come in and rescue the 3 other films it was working on. I wonder of maybe some Academy voters felt more comfortable snubbking a big FX house bc of this fact. I hope that wasn't the case.

Okay, I'll confess--actually the 2nd time. First time was Titanic, when I thought that the dolphins in the "King of the World' scene were fake and ship was real--it was actually the other way around. Those are the only2 times-I've become quite good at guessing CGI!

I can talk about the small Oscars here--my reactins on the big winners are in the thread above. And now--G night folks!


(This post was edited by Sunflower on Feb 25 2013, 7:25am)


SirDennisC
Half-elven


Feb 25 2013, 6:34pm

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the only one that makes sense to me is that the Academy wanted to award the use of CGI to create a restrained, simple or stylish product rather than the clichéd, over-the-top tending to garish imagery we see so much of anymore.

CGI carries the risk that it can be perceived as self indulgent -- just because you can do almost anything visually, doesn't mean you should.

Regarding visual effects and production design a Tolkien quote comes to mind once more:


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“Where then resides the special virtue of Beowulf, if the common element (which belongs largely to the language, and to a literary tradition) is deducted? It resides, one might guess, in the theme, and the spirit this has infused into the whole. For, in fact, if there were a real discrepancy between theme and style, that style would not be felt as beautiful but as incongruous or false.


Switch out "Beowulf" for any work of art and I think the same conclusion can be drawn (tried to warn them). It may just be that the story was overwhelmed by the effects?

The technical awards aren't just for the finest, best looking, most titillating... but chiefly, I should hope, for the most appropriate use of technology when making a film.


(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Feb 25 2013, 6:37pm)

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